The second paragraph of the FAQ of this forum state: “There are not hard and fast rules. They are guidelines to aid in human judgement of our community.”
Tonight an Niantic Wayfarer Ambassador stated, mater of factly: “An Apartment/Condo complex does not meet eligibility”
This is factually untrue and a violation of the terms of this site - an apartment complex is absolutely eligible, there is no ineligibility release by Niantic that says an apartment is not eligible because of what it is. If it meets criteria it is eligible.
From there, the pile on began by a regular reviewer who, rather than supporting the statement that apartment complexes COULD be eligible (which clearly we can agree they can) instead attacked me for my statement that hospitals can not (which is based on Niantics statement that anything that “MAY INTERFERE WITH HOSPITAL OPERATIONS” is inelible). No clarity is needed here, this is a Niantic statement, not mine but I’ll play the game - “may interfere” is a low bar, and “hospital operations” are a lot of things, including the guy who mops the lobby. Under Niantics words - not mine - potentially interfering with the mopping of the lobby is ineligible. Niantic has never made such a statement about an apartment complex. So, based on Niantics direct statements, any literally every location inside of a Hospital “may interfere in hospital operations” - there is no requirement in Niantics definition that limits those operations to an Emergency Room or other Emergency Services. They use the phrase “may interfere with hospital operations” intentionally (and they NEVER say the same about apartment complexes). Obviously hospital operations are very varied, to include housekeeping, maintenance, delivery, patient check in, patient waiting rooms etc etc. Those are legal definition of hospital operations - you can go look at hospital financial filings to understand the definition of operations - it isn’t limited to an ER or Entry and again, I personally did not make this rule about interfering with Hospital Ops - Niantic did - for a reason.
At the same time, niantic did not make a similar rule about apartment complexes, because clearly they are elibigle (tho a Niantic ambassador said otherwise…).
I was then reported to Niantic and somebody claimed I was spreading misinformation for simply saying that complexes ARE eligible for nomination. Which they very clearly are, if they meet criteria. There is no “hard and fast rule” (which is the second paragraph of the site Guidelines) that say they are explicitly ineligible. So at this point I’m incorrectly being harassed by two users who dont undersant the rules of the forum (or of wayfarer).
There is no restriction on a apartment complex like there is on hospitals - they are eligible and if they meet criterial, they can be a wayspots without the restrictions of “interfering in operations” like a hospital as (which these two same people who attacked and reported me stated they believed).
Then I got silenced and my comment edited by a moderator, in violation of forum guidelines. I was not respected, rather I was disrespected and harassed by a very frequent member, an ambassador and a moderator. Because I took a “not hard and fast rules” and instead took it as a “guidelines to aid the human judgment” but posted something they didn’t agree with. FAQ - Niantic Wayfarer Community
Then the post was closed by a separate before Niantic ever responded to my initial question about the entire topic. This is definitionally griefing, which is explicitly against the ToS of this site. I would like Aaron to explain what the agents appointed by Niantic did this evening.
In summary - multiple moderators, ambassadors and regulars violated the Community Standards against me.
Apartments are eligible.
Hospitals are not eligible - because anything that “may interfere with their operations” is not eligible, so even if the guy who cuts the grass has to stop for a 1/10 of a second because somebody is there playing pokemon, that is an “interference of hospital operations.”
Then a Moderator closed the conversation and said:
I never got any closure about the initial topic - this is just another abuse of power to end a conversation that other users, ambassadors and moderators drove WWAAAAY off topic. Not sure why it was closed, I never got an answer only got attacked and drove off topic.
But I’d love to hear from Aaron why the pile on by his agents and regulars stating otherwise was appropriate, and why it was ok for them to specifically all attack me, lack respect for the topic I raised, close it prematurely, shut down discussion be clearly disagreeable about things that Niantic themselves has stated (or not stated) be uncivil by reporting, silencing and closing the thread instead of have having the conversation. The people violating the terms of this site, in lock step against me is clear.
these are literally contradicting statements:
And then your moderator came in:
THIS IS WILD!
But this person said:
FROM YOUR AMBASSADOR:
They literally said the same thing two times, then came in with the opposite things and said “but nuance” it took them 6 hours to understand the second paragraph of the site rules about nuance that I was leaning into, told about by your mods, but still the convo was shut down. This is crazt - your mods attacked me (and literally edited my comments, slowed down my responses and closed this topic) for me BEING NUANCED? I was the only consistent person here.
