Multiple wayspots deleted, possible landowner over-reach

Wayspot Appeals
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I’ve recently been adding some trail markers on public footpaths, a week ago I added some on the public right of way on a private estate. It looks like the landowner sent a request to have the wayspots removed - fair enough - however several key wayspots in the nearby village were also removed, these are not part of that estate.

St Mary The Vn Church* (would you believe I can’t post the “V” word so image below)
52.146803, -0.243076

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Everton Village Hall
52.146386, -0.244255

Everton War Memorial
52.147161, -0.24267999999999998

Greensand Ridge Walk trail marker
52.146772, -0.24361

Everton Parish Noticeboard
52.146722, -0.243445

North Beds Heritage Trail Marker
30 Church End, Everton, Sandy SG19 2JZ, UK

One other wayspot is showing in my PoGo screenshot, I’m afraid I don’t know the name.

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I can find the extent of the estate on the council GIS - My Central Bedfordshire - Central Bedfordshire Council - it shows under Rights of Way → Section 31 agreements

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If the complainant was the Woodbury Estate, then that’s the area marked in the northeast corner of the map. I suspect it is this estate because I noted that a previously existing Wayspot was removed in the past week. The boundaries of the estate do no cover the other missing wayspots in the village. I’ve marked the estate boundary on the Lightship maps which should make it more clear..

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This is a substantial loss of good-quality wayspots for the village.

Niantic team, could you look into this. Was there a landowner takedown request? It seems to me that if there was, it was inaccurate.

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It would be helpful if you mark which one is rightfully removed and which one falsely removed.

Which area the landowner control?

We need to wait for staff to know if those are taken down by property owner or no

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All the wayspots on the map are outside the estate, that’s to the northeast of the line.

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I believe this is clearer. Thanks.

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That does seem like an overstep.

Just in case anyone is wondering even although they may have requested removal from the game they can’t stop people walking the actual path.

And if your assumption is correct ( and it seems reasonable) then that is quite a stretch to the village hall in particular.
It may be a coincidence but some photospheres were uploaded to google maps this month at each of the marker points. It may well have been someone enjoying the The Greensand ridge Trail and making a photo sphere or two at each junction point on the trail who knows :woman_shrugging:

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I made the photospheres. There was one wayspot already within the estate itself, I added two more and then there were two others on the northern edge which is the boundary with another estate. I didn’t check on what else had been deleted to the north.

The deletion must be recent because the wayspots are still in Ingress and Lightship.

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It does look nice.

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There are some great walks around there, this part in particular is near the end of the Greensand Ridge Walk, but there’s a trail Eastern Historic Parklands Walk in its own right going through Woodbury and the neighbouring Tetworth Hall’s land, all on public footpaths - https://kamino.fra1.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/greensands/app/uploads/2021/11/CC023_Eastern_Parkland_Trail_A4_DIGITAL_vs4514121.pdf

These Greensand Country routes usually have good footpaths and regular trail markers, ideal for exploration.. but maybe not if the landowners don’t want them.

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I have made some changes to this location. You should see the eligible Wayspots return to the gameboard soon.

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Thank you. Did the landowner request the wayspots to be removed? Is it possible to know the extent?

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I’m unable to confirm this information but that seems to be the likely cause.

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Eso está pasando con los azulejos del Camino de Santiago en Galicia, unos se eliminan y otros no se conceden bajo el pretexto de “privado”, si un azulejo está en una pared, ex que se dió permiso, sino el consorcio Xacobeo de Galicia no los pondría

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Unfortunately the rules around Single Family Private Residential Property (SFPRP) are clear. It does not matter that the markers have the owners permission if they are placed on the wall of SFPRP then they are not allowed to be wayspots.
I appreciate that is a frustrating situation, but is just the way it has to be.

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I checked this location centred around 52.146386, -0.244255 in the new Wayfarer map, and they are all showing as not in game despite being outside the estate. This must be having a negative impact on the players there as it’s a large chunk of the village stops.

None of these are on the land in question..

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Pinging @NianticAaron on this

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There are other threads where removal requests were reversed but have not shown back up, this seems to be a bug not yet resolved after several bugs, perhaps this is one of those scenarios.

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This glitch is still happening to me as well, so you’re not alone