Proposal to Increase Wayspot / Proposal for Permanent Criteria Mitigation

Either or, more problem for the reviewers. Even if the fraudulence is dealt with, this is still an additional workload in reviews.

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This will be another topic, but I originally hate reviews. I have written in the questionnaire many times, but it is Wayfinder’s pleasure to do fieldwork such as traveling for nomination, and doing desk work for reviews is bad for health, it’s not fun, and I hate it. Therefore, I think the management should hire people with a budget. As far as I know, Niantic has always been understaffed. What does Scopely Wayfarer, the new system, think about making reviews Wayfinder? I have been looking for improvement for a long time.

There is an interesting core in this idea.
In a months time many U.K. towns will see an influx of art trails as a summer event ( 6-8 weeks maximum)


As a reviewer I will be on the look out for them being submitted. They get auctioned off at the end for charity and then find permanent locations.
A year earlier at this location there was a totally different structure for several months

To mark a global conference on Green issues global leaders made of recycled phones.
So I get the frustration that these are not submittable.
I do think that this is more like a kind of sponsorship, a layer on the map that can and does change. I don’t think the regular processes would work well for it, so it needs a different slicker process.
I wonder about the scale as well.
The expo is a huge event with lots of money. It also benefits areas that are already well served.
I can see potential for villages and towns that might host temporary events, traditions but sometimes played up for tourism This would lack the economy of scale and these have tiny budgets.
These are interesting ideas but I don’t see them as fundamentally Wayfarer but more game related.

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Thank you for your interest. I think I probably understood. I understand that it is difficult for Niantic to take the lead and live Wayspot of an external event due to a matter of rights. The important point is that Wayfinders nominate, such as Google Maps or user-led Wayfarer. Then, instead of changing the Criteria, we will propose a completely different system from the existing system called Short Wayfarer/Short PokéStop Nomination separately from Wayfarer. How about?

To address your concern about reviews, sometimes i think it would be nice for all reviews to be done by Wayfarer employees. But other times, i realize it is a nice way to participate for people who do not have anything to submit. When you review, you get to do virtual tourism to see another part of your country or the world. It can be fun. I do not worry about people sitting in front of the computer. People must take charge of their own health and do only what is good for them.

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I was going to mention the same.

Currently seeing large rats in Hull (not all of them are real :slight_smile: ). I assumed they weren’t permanant so checked for a website and it was approved.

I remember 2016 in Sheffield had elephants (I still have a photo of each one) and was aware that they where auctions at the end for Sheffield Childrens Hospital.

I do wonder whether the Hull Rats have been accepted as if the reviewers are not aware of the process they mage approve them.

Back on topic, the OPs idea would work for these but it’s adding more work for what is usually a couple of months…

A friend pointed out that the title was difficult to understand. Therefore, I will change the title to “I would like you to change the system so that you can submit a limited-time item as Wayspot”. I hope the subject matter is easier to understand.

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Even those considered permanent have been removed due to maintenance or decay. So I think it’s a good idea to maybe put a review date on them. Or get users to scan the stop and review the images.

Just re-reading some of these posts and a “Just an Idea” popped in to my head…

In case of the Temporary Art Trails that are Charity driven, maybe scopely could allow charities to nominate “Free Short Term Sponsor” deals. The Charity organisers would supply details such as location / start / End Dates and maybe even images.

The Charity would get free publicity for the event and Scopely would get the “good will” browny points…

This proposal sounds good, but it is unlikely that Wayfarer will be able to do much about it.
It would be a matter of local governments and event organizers discussing with PoGo organizers and approving limited-time pokestops.
And considering that Wayfarer is currently required to keep up to date rather than accumulate historical data, this would be difficult.

I would see it working exactly the same as Sponsored Stops.

Therefore, not actually involving Warefarer.

There is another problem. Depending on expo or event period, staff may need to rush getting photo of all those wayspot. Something that may not possible to be done ahead if its not there yet(not built yet). While the idea seems interesting there will be time rush to review/ approve all those wayspot, not including if there is rejection. Its a lot easier to put in “sponsored” pokestop with event logo instead og actual wayspot. Which bring back to just use sponsored route

Another concern with this idea is that it could become a breeding ground for abuse.
For example, if a Wayfinder forgets to enter the end date when applying for a limited-time wayspot, they could be banned for applying for a fake wayspot several months later.
Of course, the Wayfinder who reviewed and approved it would be subject to the same consequences.

And if the organizers decide to exclude such input omissions from the ban criteria, abusers will emerge who exploit this to apply for fake wayspots.
And they will argue, “This did indeed exist. I simply forgot to enter the end date.”

Considering this, it seems appropriate for each organizer to address this issue rather than having Wayfarer handle it.

As with Sponsored a default image could be used. Just thought it would be a nice touch if there was an option that the Charity could include individual images if they wanted.

As I stated above.

No abuse, Only registered charity could participate, with evidence of the event.

Obviously, this only answers your concerns in regards to my “Free Short Term Sponsor” idea.

Allowing general nominations of these would cause too much work, too much risk for too little gain.

Yes, I agree with you.
As initially proposed, having Wayfarer and Wayfinder do everything is too risky, and the gains are too small.
In that case, it is appropriate to use a method that complies with the sponsor’s guidelines.

In fact, Niantic (now Scopely) and local governments (or event organizers) have already implemented a “Free Short Term Sponsor” to increase the number of pokestops.

Everyone seems to think that Pokémon GO’s sponsorship contract is easy and fast, but my prediction is quite the opposite. The legal department of Pokémon GO and Pokémon Co., Ltd. will sign a thick contract in advance, and there will be a financial discussion. I don’t think Scopely hires a lot of salespeople who can negotiate with companies and local governments around the world. I’m sure Scopely will only deal with large companies. So even if it takes a little time to review, I think you can make a pokestop faster via Wayfarer, which can be upgraded if necessary. It takes the effort of Explorers and reviewers, but it is a significant point that you can make Wayspot for free via Wayfarer.

How do you know it is a free sponsorship deal? Never heard of it in Japan.

“Free Short Term Sponsor” is a term used in a chat with @SlimboyFat71.
I just used it because I couldn’t get my point across without it.
Also, whether it’s free or paid isn’t really that important in this context.

It’s not really talked about much these days, but Niantic’s Vice President Mr. Kawashima talked about a free trial for sponsored pokestops in PoGo a while back.
I recollect that it was free for the first year and then paid afterward.
I think this is the case because I have seen pokestops that I think used this system.
I also recall seeing a topic about Odawara City in Japan collaborating with PoGo organizers to set up pokestops at famous landmarks within the city.
I don’t know if this was free or paid, but what you proposed has already been implemented by PoGo.

You used the Osaka Expo as an example to explain this matter, but there are already multiple wayspots within the Expo venue.
Aren’t these pokestops?
If it does not appear as a pokestop in PoGo, then that is the answer.
This is not done with Wayfarer, but with PoGo.
Ultimately, it is the organizers and PoGo organizers who decide whether to display pokestops.
It is not something Wayfarer decides.

Not all administrations are interested in Pokémon GO. It is a waste of time to wait for the government and the charity to act in order to create a limited time Wayspot.

Odawara sponsor PokéStop is a project of a national administrative agency called the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism. It’s not a city. I do not believe that the partnership between Niantic and MLIT is being done free of charge, I believe that the sponsorship is being done by Niantic and the MLIT. But I don’t know if they are paying sponsorship fees or not because it is not disclosed.

Official website:

Press release materials: Rediscover local charms and historical buildings in “Pokémon GO”! ~The 7th! Tsushima City, Aichi Prefecture, Nagasaki City, Nagasaki Prefecture ~ - Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism

My point is that you can make a Wayspot via Wayfarer faster and for free. If you want to create a time-limited Wayspot, Wayfarer would be the best choice. However, it currently falls under the Rejection Criteria, so it cannot be created.

90% of the Wayspots currently registered with EXPO2025 fall under the Rejection Criteria. They are all temporary items. There seem to be a lot of nominators and reviewers who do not follow the rules. I am looking for ways to allow legitimate nominations, including suggestions to relax the rules.

I take your point.
However, please know that even if you suggest it on the Wayfarer forum and get approval, it won’t fix the issue.
Normally, even if it’s a temporary point, it should show up in PoGo once it’s approved by Wayfarer.
However, the wayspot isn’t showing up in PoGo.
If PoGo is refusing to display the wayspot, Wayfarer doesn’t have the authority to tell them to change it.
The people you should talk to about this aren’t Wayfarer.
It’s PoGo Help, TPC, and the Expo organizers.