Rejected Removal Appeal- Blurry Mary Statue

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  • Wayspot Title: Blurry Mary Statue
  • Location (lat/lon): 46.882492,-96.789333

First off, this statue no longer exists that this location. Also, the photos for it are all blurry, and I think when this statue was on the grounds, it wasn’t, so it may have been falsely submitted and possibly misplaced. Street View from January 2022 shows a statue around 46.88241115030167, -96.7894456940757, but there is no longer a statue in this area, just the metal posts that were next to it are still there (metal posts can be seen in photos I took).

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Photos of the current area:

Please remove this Wayspot as there is no statue in the area, and may have also been falsely submitted. Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the appeal @DTrain2002 ,

We could not verify that this statue doesn’t exist anymore at this location. As a result, we stand by our decision to not remove the Wayspot.

what proof would you need to be able to remove it? the photo does not give a lot of context about where it supposedly is.

i am very glad the team does not take removals lightly, btw.

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Hey @cyndiepooh ,

Great question!

The object was located where the Wayspot is currently located. The front part seems to have been remodeled. There is a chance that the statue is inside the new construction or has been relocated somewhere else inside the church. The below image should give you more context:

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There are multiple Mary statues on the grounds of this cathedral, and many have been removed due to vandalism. I took photos of this area, and there is no statue here anyone when you compare them to Street View. I doubt that it was moved elsewhere, but instead was just removed due to it being damaged.

Also, it’s been quite awhile since this area was remodeled. Please take another look.

I specifically went to this area to update the title/description/photo for this Wayspot, but found it no longer is there, so I couldn’t update it.

Find it quite odd that this was decided upon so quickly.

That’s not enough, unfortunately. We need conclusive evidence.

The area was remodeled after the Wayspot was submitted.

I thought you’d be happy that it has been reviewed so quickly :thinking:

No, because it doesn’t exist there anyone. Also, the photo you show looks like the patio of the rectory, the living area for the priest. Not a place I would find to be appropriate for a Wayspot.

No, I would rather that you fully do research on this instead of quickly making a decision, especially an incorrect decision. Take your time, don’t rush things.

And how did I not provide evidence? I took multiple photos at this location. What else do you need to remove this?

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:folded_hands:

This is unneeded. Please delete. You are not making me feel great about this with this post. I feel belittled.

My apologies if you felt that way. That sign is a mark of respect.

Regarding the appeal, we stand by our decision to not remove the Wayspot.

Praying hands are not always seen as a mark of respect. I do not find them respectful, as I have my issues with religion.

Ok, so how am I to update the photo to one that isn’t blurry, and a title that is more accurate when it doesn’t exist?

This image shows a statue that was on the patio of the rectory, and I took a photo of the rectory patio yesterday. It seems it was moved off of the patio and into the yard, next to the poles in the photo as well. It’s not there anymore when you compare the photos to Street View.

Wait, it’s a praying emoji? I am not religious and never viewed it as that. I just assumed it was a gratitude emoji because there are multiple cultures who make that gesture when displaying gratitude to someone.

Yes, it’s hands in prayer. Search for it using pray, and it comes up.

And I’m concerned about accuracy, as thos Wayspot has been bugging me for awhile, ever since I first noticed it in Ingress.

Actually according to a Dutch site, this is the number one emoji that is misunderstood, it is not a praying emoji, but an emoji expressing thank you.

I’ll quote the text (in Dutch):

1. De gevouwen handen

  • Verkeerde interpretatie: Twee handen die aan het bidden zijn.

  • Werkelijke betekenis: Deze gevouwen handen betekenen “alsjeblieft” of “bedankt” in het Japans.

Edit: link to the site

Nope, it’s praying hands. I think different generations, different cultures have different meanings for it, but in the US, it’s hands in prayer. I never ever use it because of my issues with religion.

Also, the hands issue is off-topic.

It’s not necessarily praying. Folded hands mean gratitude.

Again, different meanings to different people, and completely off-topic.

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