I nominated this a long time ago when I was travelling, and it’s likely I will never return, so if there are suggestions to edit my title and description I likely will not get the chance to do so. I’m more curious if this type of location seems eligible or not.
To me, this is a space made to encourage gatherings and outdoor activity for residents, in a common space of a large apartment complex. I thought it seemed like a good spot, since it has permanent posts in the ground for a bunch of hammocks in this middle courtyard area. It got rejected for being a generic business, then the appeal failed because hammocks are mass produced. The me, it’s not about the hammock itself, it’s about the location provided for the residents. Much like mass produced picnic tables under a pavilion, which does not disqualify the pavilion as a gathering space.
Thoughts? I’ve seen several parks with clusters of hammock posts (Although most of those don’t come with their own hammocks like this one does. This one has a couple hammocks provided and some empty posts for personal hammocks) so I’d like to know if I should keep trying with these as I see them.
fwiw, I would have accepted these hammocks. They are in a common area for the apartments and clearly intended to get residents to spend time outdoors. And visible on satellite view:
Do people really socialize on hammocks though? I think you rest or read on them with like one other person at most,
two if kids. It reads as much less social to me than a picnic area or fire pit with couches, especially as seen in the supporting pic where it looks like two hammocks about as far apart as possible in that courtyard.
Interesting feature and it was worth a shot, but it’d be a no from me.
Imo I wouldnt give this a direct No for socialize maybe an “I dont know”. Since you certainly could use this location to organize a meet up and be social. Id also bring into the conversation, at least in my area, in parks/camp grounds/college grounds “Eno”(pretty much a portable hammock but more caccon like)clusters are popular to set up and to hang out and interact with others in addition to relaxing(those obviously would fail the “permanent” part but these Hammocks are obviously fixed to a point). You can sometimes find groups as large as 5+ together just hanging out. They are definitely more for resting but you can also sit in them and be social with others. So id pass this under social and probably Explore since this is something I would find super cool if someone I know pointed out their Apartments have this(as Im sure they are for residents/guest of residents) Just my 2 cents.
The hammocks are definitely places to hang out and be social. This example was a requested feature by teens for the latest town park, and the artist took it up a notch.
At least a few of the ones I’ve seen in my area are “BYOH” (“bring your own hammock”) so they might typically appear empty but can still be used.
And even if the canvas or net is taken down seasonally, I’m not sure I’d personally necessarily consider that full grounds for removal under “temporary” guidance if the poles are still there and intended to be reused. I could definitely see removal being warranted if there is any evidence that the hammocks won’t be restored, though.
You didn’t say we couldn’t critique the Supporting text if I agree with a nomination meeting the criteria stated it isn’t a problem, but if the reviewer doesn’t already agree you’ve missed your opportunity to persuade them.
“Encourages exercise and being social.” How? I’d have at least added some details… “Using a hammock can be a social activity with friends or part of a chance to reflect in solitude and provides an opportunity to explore the outdoors in comfort.” I don’t know if that’s the right take, but I’d probably start there and revisit a few times until I had what makes sense and I thought would catch a few people in agreement.
The posts are permanent though! Don’t remove those. Surely it isn’t helping anyone to remove that as a wayspot. The hammock spot will always be there for people to bring their own.
Yes they do! I have gone hammocking with friends. One park near me has open hammock posts that you can attach your own to. It can be a fun social activity, even if you are mainly reading books near each other, you still enjoy each others company.
Well I’m glad to hear that we mostly agree on these types of spots being good wayspots. Unfortunately I won’t be able to go try this spot again, but I’ll keep an eye out in the future for more of them. If only I could appeal my appeal lol.
I’m still hoping that the Niantic staff will see this post and decide to change the appeal decision, because I relly do believe that decision was incorrect
if I agree with a nomination meeting the criteria stated it isn’t a problem, but if the reviewer doesn’t already agree you’ve missed your opportunity to persuade them.