We invading england? Finally, let me get my kilt claymore and … oh, wait, to submit things … i could maybe do that i suppose
They are not the worst but I couldn’t eat more than one.
@seaprincesshnb is going to tell us off again for turning the thread into a UK food tour.
I’ll be good now. Promise.…
Luckily ive already done some of this then lol
I could maybe, on a free day, have my partenr frop me off at some bit and ill walk back along the trail towards my area(ish)
Ive been wanting to submit every marker for a trail near me, thomas muir (not john) but tryi g to get by niantics appeals and normal reviewers for some of them is mind numbingly annoying lol
I’m also a Community Ambassador for my local PoGo community and I’ve been thinking about hosting a Wayfarer event this year. Maybe this is a good opportunity to get out somewhere with a group of locals who I’ve been trying to convince to do Wayfarer! Two birds, if you will.
Even worse in scotland where its always cold, windy and raining except for like, a month of rhe year lol
Well, on this occasion, a fried mars bar is a scottish food tour lol so you may not get in trouble lol
No one said that wasn’t being done. This is not an either/or situation. You can work to help out other areas while also maintaining your own. That’s especially true if you’re talking about removing POI that no longer exist since that does not require nominations.
The recent made changes are very good for them who tries to maintain existing poi. Its very tiresome to take a new photo, and not being able to have it granted but 12 months later. Today I can add a photo and have it granted before I come home. And it will become visible the next update. The same with re-locations. I am able to make 2-3 during a walk and a few days later they are visible ingame. But I can often see them a few hours later on the wayfarerapp.
Those same changes make this kind of nominating work easier. @CountKnick mentioned how hard it is to get some things approved by the community. My personal experience is that ML has made certain types of nominations much easier to get approved.
I’ve always thought of doing this kind of work in rural areas. But it’s really come more into focus as some of us have been talking about the state of WF in our larger metro area. Metro Atlanta covers a very large land area (IMO). There are huge swaths of land that are POI-lite. These areas correlate with economic levels - the poorer the area, the less likely it is to be fully decked out in POI. I want to help overturn that disparity. There are city parks that only have 1 or 2 POI. There are places of great historical significance that no one has bothered to nominate.
@seaprincesshnb I can only imagine how large some the areas around Atlanta are compared to here. That would be a mission in itself.
I think ML is a bit slack over here or my current submissions may have gone in just as it started and haven’t got picked up as they are coming up on almost 2 months now and some are still queued with 2 currently in voting.
I agree with you that I would love to see areas no matter where they are teaming with poi so that no matter who is playing what, each and everyone of them are going to have an enjoyable experience and learn something along the way. My biggest problem here is dead zones basically where there are empty fields or else schools that take a big bite out of the playable area.
Saying that it is getting better where I am due to just sticking with it, but I’m pigheaded so I just keep at it.
1 bit of advice I can pass on to any newer submitters is - look up. I have found more bits and pieces that I have plans to submit that I missed many many times because I was looking around at eye level, also look down. I found a plaque here a while back that is made into the footpath beside a historic monument. I must have passed it I don’t know how many times and never noticed it. It won’t work as a poi because it would literally be sitting on top of the existing one for the monument but it is amazing the things you can miss on your own doorstep when you aren’t actually looking for things. That is one thing I like about Wayfarer, it really makes you take a closer look at your locality.
Now how well I’d be able to see if myself, @26thDoctor @elijustrying and others go day tripping remains to be seen. Guess it all depends on the Bru and Mars bars.
If I could get our players out of the shadows/bushes or wherever they are hiding I’d try and do the same.
I have 2 very different on going projects.
1 is in a typical poor 60s estate with only 2 roads in/out. Efforts are underway to improve it by including small private housing at edges……that doesn’t get to the heart of the matter but gives a few extra small play areas.
Number 2 is a rural area with expensive houses. Here the main source is trails. But also real oddities turn up. A side target here is to get the gritstone trail covered - lots of these done by others so filling in the gaps.
So I am game for more similar projects.
The easy, interesting park features and historic places are exactly what the new wayfarers can nominate, have a positive experience, and that’s how the community will grow.
Instead of submitting everything for the locals in one day, I think it’s better to help them to do it, and if the Wayfarer team wants to support the community, better tools would help. For example, a map of all existing wayspots (app or website), as mentioned above. Or, let people share nomination drafts for comments (permalinks to nominations on hold). Let submitters edit/crop photos or upload better photos while the nomination is on hold. Let people share places where something can be nominated (wishlist or scouting). Give small rewards for motivation, for example, send people gifts from new pokestops (similar to how Ingress sends keys).
Nothing prevents you from taking those along anyway.
There is a very real possibility that by one person spending a day nominating in one rural town, more people local to that town could level up and join Wayfarer, therefore allowing them to really cultivate their local map. More Wayspots means more opportunities to play, complete missions/daily bounties/etc. without having to go to (potentially) another town entirely.
Sure, parks could be seen as low hanging fruit, but my argument would be that if there’s a level 10/37 player in that community and they haven’t bothered to nominate their local park, then why wait on them to add it? There’s just as likely to be several players who haven’t leveled up high enough to add Wayspots… partly because there’s not enough nearby Wayspots for them to quickly complete the in-game tasks. Maybe a new gym spawns at the fountain in the park. That could potentially be a new meet up spot for community day, for example. A ton of new Wayspots pop up one day and it might get people actively trying to level up to join Wayfarer, or just seeing the new spots might inspire someone local who casually plays to get out and try Wayfarer for the first time.
Should we be supportive and inclusive of locals within rural communities? 100% yes. They know their community, they likely know best which is the best place to exercise, socialize, and explore. Having a service day doesn’t mean taking away their opportunity to learn and participate in Wayfarer. If anything I would think it maybe inspire some folks to join the community and make it easier for the casual player to enjoy their games.
TL;DR more Wayspots = more people playing and leveling up = more Wayfarers = more Wayspots. At least that’s my hope.
To add to what @aliccolo said, how do you suggest i contact these people? I’m talking about going to places that are 30 miles away (the closest).
I have a statewide discord that I’ve been running for outreach for 2 years. There are links to it on every “local” discord server i can find in the metro area (and beyond). I pop in to those other servers to answer questions they might have on WF (never many questions). I have a campfire group that people only join to try to raid in PGO.
We hold quarterly meet-ups from my Wayfarer server. Where people can meet with THREE Wayfarer ambos (current or retired).
I occasionally put messages in Ingress comms that not one single person has ever responded to.
I would love to teach locals how to do Wayfarer. But finding them is virtually impossible.
I could not agree more with you
Thats how i always view it when i go to an area, if theres players, fhey will have already submitted the easy stuff, if not, then me doong it helps anyone there.
Even places i know theres submitters, i usually ask them to submit first, if they arent interested than i do it.
UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT
I drove 27 miles to an area of town that has some POI but is not nearly as POI dense as it should be. This is the area of Atlanta where our HBCUs (historically black colleges and universities) are located. It’s summer and today was a federal holiday. That means the campuses were not very busy, but also many of the buildings were closed.
I went with one other Wayfinder who works in the area, so they had a personal interest in getting more POI added to PGO. We spent 4 hours walking and riding around. Many of the things were places I had already identified from satellite and street view, or things they had walked by and wanted to submit. But while driving and exploring, we found a few things that you just wouldn’t see unless you had wheels on the ground.
We also took at least one opportunity to update an image that is really out of date for a 10 year old wayspot.
Though I wasn’t able to find true “locals,” I think collaborating with someone who works around there serves the same purpose. They gained some practice submitting and figuring out how to place POI by looking for things you can see on satellite. I only found one thing that I need to resubmit because I used the photo that still had my reflection in it instead of the one where I’d done a decent job of removing myself.
UPDATE TO THE UPDATE…
POI are being approved. 19 of the 23 we submitted have been accepted by ML and should sync into the games (if they fit) at the next sync:
- mural (x2)
- historical marker for the Atlanta Student Movement
- a seating area under a large shade structure across from the campus library that is a gathering spot for students
- athletic courts (x6)
- painted electrical box
- campus buildings for students or education or unique architecture (x4)
- the Athletic Hall of Fame for an HBCU
- statue
- community garden
- pedestrian gate to the campus (really pretty)