My point was that whatever level of Pokemon Go they allowed you join Wayfarer, whenever you started nominating you would be a new wayfarer.
I was not suggestion Wayfarer Levels.
A Pokémon GO player that’s level 40 can easily know as little about Wayfarer as a a level 35 player. You could substitute these levels with any number.
The inverse can also apply that a level 35 player could have read up on criteria and be fully ready to do Wayfarer where the level 40 player isn’t. Again, you can substitute these levels.
So whilst I get your point, I disagree. It’s on Wayfarer to ensure there’s the relevant education and information available for any Wayfarers, regardless of what level that is. Many Pokémon GO players will never engage with Wayfarer, but for those who do, they need to know how to do so correctly and what’ll happen if they don’t.
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I have seen new wayfarers join at 37 and be immediately interested and aware of criteria, and I have seen people who literally just want a home stop regardless of eligibility.
I also know of l50s who are very happy to submit fake and misplaced things just to ensure they get more PoIs.
I dont think level has anything to do with it - it’s just about if you’re interested in doing the process properly and following the rules.
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Hello,
Thanks for posting it is important that all views around this are aired.
There are several strands to what you have raised.
It sounds as though the key concern is the frustration of an experienced wayfinder seeing either wholly ineligible nominations or ones that are poorly presented.
In this community forum we get a constant stream of queries about nominations. We ask for the full details in order to help.
I can’t recall anyone ever asking “ and what is your game level”. 
We don’t ask “how experienced are you at Wayfarer?” That information is often offered in the post 
. It can be useful as to how you respond but it’s not essential.
What matters is the nomination.
The community are always focussed on helping identify any issues, ways to improve, and very importantly educating the wayfinder beyond the nomination that raised the question.
Whenever you start wayfarer you have good intentions to do that wholly remarkable thing, put something in a global game. The driver for that is nearly always about improving that gameboard nearby. It’s the most natural thing.
My engagement with the game was driving my interest in wayfarer. But it had no relationship with my capacity to be a wayfinder.
I remember that when I started I read up on information, I did pass the test ( I was very nervous ) but looking back there were huge gaps in my understanding. I had to wait until I reached level 12 in ingress to review and then I really started to learn - the embarrassment of how my nominations must look to others 
Again it was not the game level but learning by experience.
I am so glad that reviewing, submitting and voting on photos goes hand in hand so much easier to learn.
I continue to consider myself a wayfinder who learns every day.
My hope is that we get an influx of people here - some may read on the web, some sign in and read and I hope many will ask questions.
The complexity of wayfarer is not obvious no matter how much you read. Whatever that nomination looks like that person thought it was ok. They thought it met criteria. I hope they will be open to learn. The role of nomination support is to open the discussion and develop understanding.
Welcoming new wayfinders in new places especially with a lack of wayspots gives other wayfinders a chance to help those areas grow without going there.
It sounds exciting to me.
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Now we need a new map that is basically the same as iitc
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New players to help submitting new wayspots does sound good.
One big issue for new (and old) wayfarer users now is lack of map-tools.
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If you ask me whether player level determines the quality of Wayspots, I would say NO.
This is because, prior to September 2015, Ingress did not require AG level and allowed unlimited nominations.
At that time, there were AGs who submitted excellent portals even at A1 level, while others at A16 level did not understand what constitutes a portal.
The quality of Wayspots is determined by individual knowledge and learning.
However, on the other hand, the answer is YES.
This is because when new players join, the quality level generally declines.
If I think about it that way, it will be necessary to continuously provide opportunities for high-level learning when joining Wayfarer.
Agreed (my first nomination was terrible and rightly rejected), new wayfarers are joining all the time and all this change will do is give a small increase for a few weeks.
These new wayfarers will fall in to 3 categories…
Learners: These will improve and become assets to the wayfarer community.
None Learners: These will nominate, get rejected and pack in.
Complainers: These will make bad nominations, get rejected then come on here complaining as the rules should be different for them “and it is nothing to do with the fact that the nomination would give them a “couch stop”” 
4th group is those that have already educated themselves on criteria and guidelines, so they start subitting some great POIs right away. They may even know current Wayfarer users, and be able to learn before starting.
I also agree that I didn’t start out the best, but I came to the forums to learn more, I used the search function on the forums to 1st try and find my answer (this is how I found out about LFL on PRP not being eligible).
We have lost some users that were Ingress-only players, and some of them just don’t seem interested in submitting to both Wayfarer and Recon. Some may not even have a high level PoGo account, so lowering to L35 may bring some of them around to submitting twice.
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I enjoy telling people that my first nomination was a rock.
I’d read up on the guidelines of OPR (back then) and knew it was eligible, had the plaque on it, and I had details about why it was important/signifcant to the area etc.
But still funny to go “Yeah, my first nomination was a rock and it got accepted.”
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Mine was actually a sundial given to our city from our former Japanese sister city to celebrate our state’s centennial. It’s at the entrance of the parking at the airport, in the middle of the sidewalk, and accessible to all. No idea how it was rejected to this day, but it was.
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I did read up and thought I had the gist but when you are out and about you are not going to remember everything.
I have occasionally gone the wrong way round. Stumbles upon a standard footbridge, nothing fancy just goes over a main road. Not trying to big it up I did state that it did connect 2 halves of the same village. When at the location I did think that it might be OK if the council tidied up the fly tipping and gave the bridge a paint job but decided to try anyway.
After sending it through and it got to Voting I thought that I should have checked the forums so took a look and decided it was a waste as not likely to be accepted. Went straight through.
Gist: Common things are not eligible unless there is something different…
Whilst we are being honest, 1st nomination was a Bus Shelter. Locally modern shelters are metal / glass and plastic, older shelters are brick. This one is made of stone, wooden bench, wood and felt roof (thing shed roof).
Obviously rejected and obviously why but making those mistakes is how you remember the right way of doing things.
Ok, so have a little issue with PoGo Hub’s article about this topic:
https://pokemongohub.net/post/news/pokemon-go-lowers-wayfarer-requirement-to-level-35/
Here’s the main part I have an issue with:
Similarly, memorial benches are usually rejected and picnic areas sometimes get through, which makes sense to some, but the real problem is that the information about both is hidden somewhere on the Wayfarer forums! There is an entire section of the forums dedicated to review clarifications, and none of those are actually linked from the main review criteria inside Wayfarer.
These re not hidden in the forums, as they are also in the help center (Forum Criteria Discussions Library — Wayfarer Help Center) as well as in the Help section on the Wayfarer website under Wayspot Criteria (Niantic Wayfarer).
So, just feel that this needs to be said, as it’s not hidden here.
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@Glawhantojar can you get that bit corrected?
(I pulled the post up on Facebook and commented there.)
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Thats brilliant! Very funny especially that it was a “good rock” and got accepted!
I nominated a pile of rocks quite early on, and that was accepted too! It’s a deliberately placed climbing feature in a playground. Yay for rocks!
I’ll pass it along to Zero, who wrote the article.
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Well, I’m now noticing that the new Wayfinders in my community may not be following criteria and guidelines, both for submitting and reviewing. I sent a message to our local Campfire group to let them know about the critera/guidelines, as well as the forums. Sometimes we have to be the educators, so I hope my message does get seen by others in my area and improvements are made.
Not fun having a nomination rejected for link in the description, yet it was in the supporting info…
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Yeah, but that has been happening for years. Education has been an issue for a long time. Found this early appeal:
First time it’s ever happened to me in my area.
This would have been a great opportunity to upgrade the onboarding experience and provide clear, robust education, both in game and via other sources, before the inevitable flood of new people that are struggling to work out how the system works. Was this not something that was discussed?
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