On my travels to Perivale Park, I noticed various CycleWay Markers that are covered by TFL (Cycleways - Transport for London). Not a huge fan of the National Cycle Routes regardless of their eligibility, so tend to avoid them, but am wondering if the Cycleways (Cycleways - Transport for London) are eligible in any way shape or form?
Do you have a photo of one @P1dg3ySlayer - just to give us some context
I looked up the park, and found these near it.
There are also official maps for the routes, such as this one for Cycleway 40, which goes through this area:
An interactive map can be found here:
I’m not so sure about these.
They seem to be more of a way of presenting cycle lanes than routes.
Needs more looking into as they may be ok?
I don’t have one to hand. I will try and see if I can find one tomorrow. It isn’t a box standard sign.
Yeah, it does appear that some of the paths are just regular streets that cars can use, too, while there are some paths for non-motorized vehicles and walking only. Seems to be a mix.
They appear to be similar to the London Loop, but for cyclists.
The ones I am referring to are fairly new and recently installed. From what I recall they were added instead of installing the new Cycle Superhighway everywhere.
This website is interesting
The language is all about encouraging exploration
Get your culture, retail and sightseeing fix sorted along the new Cycleway 6! Here’s our top sights to enjoy along the way:
- [British Library] – did you know it’s the largest national library in the world? With around 200 million items available for you to enjoy, it’s sure to keep you busy.
- [Camden Market]– with incredible shops, eateries and music venues, it’s no surprise that this iconic spot is London’s fourth most popular visitor attraction.
- [Regents Canal Footpath] take in 14km of scenic views from Paddington to Limehouse Basins!
This last one is a footpath so should be good anyway
However the images used are focussed on cycle lanes on roads.
So my initial thoughts are some places on these might be good - but these may have different more appropriate signage for walking.
Others are more the equivalent of a road numbering system for cyclists.
I don’t think a blanket yes or no is going to be useful.
Open to further points debate
Is the 87 in a box an NCN link, or its own route number?
I would be more inclined to accept than reject given the write up of the routes is all about exploring, and obvious exercide link
My opinion (others are no doubt available ) is that this example is a no.
There is no route number, it doesn’t appear to be a decision point and it looks more like a piece of utility signage.
Those are not NCN routes, I’ve seen some similar submissions saying that they are and I’ve rejected them for accuracy.
NCN signs should have a red background on the number - see National Cycle Network - Wikipedia - while I think other numbered routes are possibly acceptable as wayspots, they’re not NCN routes.
Route C.
I understand that the C is for cycleway and it should be followed by a specific number to indicate which one.
Happy to learn if some routes are just letters
I think these are not part of the national cycle routes, just a London thing.
They are just a London Initiative, which looks great. But they are all numbered according to the route map PDFs. And they are distinct from NCN and older routes like the orbital one.
I will try and dig a bit deeper into the topic. The one I posted is one of many in the area.
Yes it’s good to talk through these new features. My normal review area includes part of London so I am keen to be aware of these.
Found this one.
Edit: So this forms part of the C40 route - https://content.tfl.gov.uk/cycleway-40-greenford-to-brentford-map-a3.pdf.
It appears that the starting point on the route is the one I posted earlier, but isn’t numbered. I am in 2 minds as to whether they should or shouldn’t qualify. So the question now is, should the ones labelled Cycleway C40 (as shown in this response) be considered as eligible, if written up properly?