Hello, I drive through this rural village occasionally, initial there was just one gym at a church, but I since nominated another church there and an antique post box. When I last visited I found the village hall (it was sort of tucked out of the way) so I nominated it assuming it would go through. Curiously, while it was in queue (not even voting), about an hour later I got an email saying it was rejected, I went and checked and it says rejected for wayfarer criteria. I’m a bit suprised, I thought a village hall/community center was more than appropriate to be a waypoint/gym/stop. Am I wrong? Should I appeal? It does appear as a village hall on google maps too.
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Did a check on Google Maps and shows this as Carmel Village Hall. Unless I am missing something, it doesn’t look like the location you have submitted. I don’t know why you have marked out Carmel in the title and the word under Neuadd, which makes me a little suspicious over the intent, which may be an over-reaction.
Nope, that’s not the one, I thought I should keep the location private? Like that’s standard internet procedure right? It’s a real place in Wales.
Assuming everything I said is true, is my premise correct? A place like that should be a way point?
I don’t see the point in keeping the location private in this case as we want to help you in either get this nomination through or provide a reasonable explaination as to why it got rejected. The Niantic ML rejected the nomination, which could be down to the title and what’s on the building not matching, but I don’t know that for sure.
However, without knowing anything about where this is, it’s difficult to determine whether it’s been rightly rejected or not.
(Also, the location wasn’t really well hidden, as I knew it was in Carmel in Wales).
It’s not difficult to find on Streetmap and Google Search. I would probably call this the Neuadd Carmel Hall or something similar. I would improve the description a little and also include a link to their facebook page in the supporting information.
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If you choose to resubmit this, you will probably need to provide more information on what a village hall is. What purpose does it serve? Is it a place where people gather for events, or is it a place that offers services to village residence? It may be obvious to you, but it may not be obvious to voters who are not in your area.
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Actually there are a few Carmels in Wales, it’s this one I think - https://maps.app.goo.gl/WNfMjJCwdYg5umN4A
It looks perfectly valid, note that some reviewers may reject a village hall if it is also used as a childcare facility or nursery, I don’t see that here. As a bonus, the noticeboard might be a valid wayspot but I would recommend not submitting it until the village hall is approved.
Not sure why it was rejected, it may be worth finding some supporting evidence that it’s a village hall and including that in the Supporting Information text.
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Hi @BardockRD
I’d try to use the same title as you can read on the sign.
As the ML (machine learning) has rejected your submission. The building is good centered and focus of the photo, so the ML might has a problem with the difference in your title and the sign on the building 
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I see, I never knew about this ML, makes sense though, thank you!
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There’s also a Nature Reserve nearby. I don’t know if it has any nature signs or nature trail markers that could qualify as nominations.
Thank you, yes I believe a pokestop did appear there for a sign a little while ago!
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@BardockRD was making an effort to conceal the location, so that should be respected. It’s perfectly fine to say why a location might help us find a solution but it’s fine if someone doesn’t wish to disclose and it shouldn’t raise suspicions.
Sometimes we are too keen to help.
I think this was mistaken for a house. And I would recommend trying to appeal it so that a human can look at it. You can add more context in the appeal.
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I hear what you are saying, but I would say that for us to help effectively, it help us knowing as much as possible. When I searched based on the Submission title, I found a different location for the village hall, which raised some suspicion (rightly or wrongly).
I did manage to find the location based on the information that wasn’t hidden. I didn’t mistake this for a house, but thought (rightly or not) that this was a medical / centre of some sort, which was why I was a bit suspicious.
If we gave inaccurate information, it wouldn’t be fair on the OP as we would be giving false hope.
If this was a private residence, I would agree with you completely that their address details shouldn’t be made public.
All I’m asking is that if it appears someone doesn’t want to give the location even if our geoguesser skills means we can find it we answer in a way that respects the original intention.
It does help enormously to look at where something is and several other good suggestions have come out of that. But if that individual doesn’t want that it’s their choice.
I think it’s something we all need to consider .
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Village halls typically make excellent submissions.
They do often get used as children’s facilities but that is not their main function - its just 1 of many, so that definitely doesnt disqualify them as waypoints.
For the non uk reviewers, they’re places for church fetes, hiring the hall for birthday parties and wedding receptions, judo classes, yoga, senior fitness, children’s gymnastics, girl guides, mother and baby groups, the list is kind of endless
They’re a hugely important community hub and ideal for meeting the social criteria and usually exercise and explore too.
I would appeal this or just resubmit depending on how easy it is to get back there to resubmit it
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