My insect hotel cross-shaped was rejected – looking for feedback

please stop worrying about the harassment issue. you did not do that. the system does not have the finesse to say specifically why reviewers selected “abuse” and that is just the message that spits out. we have explained that some reviewers may have thought you were committing an abuse of setting up something temporarily to create a pokestop nomination.

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Without further context.

  1. First rejection reason may be reviewers hitting “generic business” right away. That response on its own doesn’t make sense, but may be a product of reviewers wanting to quickly reject (remember, we’re in a review challenge presently) the nomination they don’t feel meets any criteria or may not be permanent.

  2. Maybe the second rejection is from someone(s) who (again) see a homemade stop and feel the cross within a insect hotel as a way to demean Christianity. I’m grasping for an explanation here.

My concerns revolve around whether this is permanent. Without further support I would wonder if someone made and placed this near their home in an attempt to get a “couchie”, a stop or gym they can spin from their couch. Without further support for it being officially placed on public land and permanent, I’d likely reject it as temporary.

Some also may frown upon this for being on single family private residential property (SFPRP). Reviewers in the Netherlands may have a better understanding as to whether or not this is on SFPRP. IMO, it appears that it is not.

If you resubmit, I’d address the issue around permanence of this object. I’d probably also not explicitly mention it being in the shape of a cross.

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Thank you very much — this was the most helpful and balanced explanation so far.
I appreciate that you looked at all sides without assuming anything.

Since posting this, I’ve added a sign next to the object showing that it’s part of a community initiative and permanently placed in public space.
I plan to resubmit with that update and will leave out any specific mention of its shape to avoid misinterpretation.

I truly appreciate your thoughtful input.

My worry now is that people are going to consider whether the sign is permanant and official.

If not it could look like you have just added it to try and make a “fake” nomination look legit.

I am not saying this is the case with yours but a reviewer has to make a decision and sometimes it hard to tell the difference between a legit nom that looks a bit fake and a fake nom trying to look legit.

Most reviewers would refuse rather than accept and hope that someone would report it later :frowning:

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Indeed I would advice NOT to add objects to the real world to make an object wayspot eligible, as that can indeed be interpreted as abuse. I’d rather see an (online) source to prove that it is an official placed object.

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Thanks again for your input — I really appreciate everyone who took the time to respond thoughtfully.

I feel that with the additional photos, context, and supporting text, I’ve done what I reasonably can to clarify the intent and permanence of the nomination.

At some point, I also believe reviewers need to apply consistent standards — because if doubts about “permanence” are taken to the extreme, many already-accepted nominations wouldn’t hold up either.

I’ve marked the post that helped me the most as the solution, and I’m going to take the insights from this thread into my resubmission.

Thanks again to everyone who contributed — I really value the feedback!

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Thanks for your reply. Just to clarify: the sign was not added to “make it eligible,” but to help clarify the context for reviewers after feedback.

This was already a real and community-based initiative, and the sign makes that visible.
I understand your view, but I think it’s important we don’t discourage honest efforts to improve transparency and presentation in nominations.

Adding objects in the real world to influence reviewers is still considered abuse. Just putting it out there not to inspire others. I get you want to prove the community initiative, but making signs is not the way to go here.

I understand your perspective, and I appreciate your effort to protect the integrity of the system.

For me, it was simply about providing clarification after feedback — not trying to manipulate the system or mislead reviewers.

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on where the line is. Thanks again to everyone who contributed.

This is not something to agree to disagree on. It can get you banned because of the abuse ladder. If you still want to go ahead that’s your choice of course, I am just trying to warn you here.

I definitely would NOT have made my own sign to place next to it. IMO, that’s an easy way for reviewers to confirm their suspicions that the nominator made this himself and placed it specifically to create a stop/portal/gym/POI. That’s an easy way for it to get denied as abusive.

Leave the object as it is. If this was placed as part of community effort or government initiative then I would expect there is mention on the governmental authority’s website that would support this assertion. There is also likely to be media coverage for this. Include links in your supporting information.

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Just to clarify (since I think there might be some confusion):

There actually was a sign already placed next to the insect hotel when it was originally made. I left it out of the photo during the first nomination to keep the “magical” look, but after the rejection, I included it in the new photos to better explain the purpose and community aspect.

I didn’t create a sign just for Wayfarer — I just made it visible this time around. Hope that clears things up. Thanks again for all the feedback!

Maybe upload the new image here.

Many reviewers here have been doing it for years and they are just giving advise that may stop you getting a ban (this can be in Wayfarer and in game).

There also many mentions that you should not use whats already in the game as confirmation what is allowed. Criteria has changed. Some POIs get through that shouldn’t. They way to sort these are to report and get them removed.

Good luck with what you decide to do.

I am curious about it as well, if I check above any logical location for a sign should be in that supporting image.

People are here to help you, it would be a shame if you do not take the advice to heart and it impacts your account.