There have been ambo and ambo alums in here, and they most likely will give you the same info that we have given. Pooh just tagged one for you to have a further look.
We can’t say why it was voted on they way it was; every Wayfarer votes differently, but all should follow the criteria. We are told that we need to use our best judgment when reviewing, as long as we follow criteria.
Without seeing the entire nomination, it’s hard for us to fully say why someone may have rejected this as not being permanent and distinct, which is what the temporary/distinct rejection reason is for, or why they chose generic business, although some reviewers believe this to be the best way to reject, even if the POI isn’t a generic business such as a grocery store or fast food chain.
What we have been told in regards to making sure we reject a nomination while reviewing to to thumbs down on one of the first 4 questions. We have asked staff for further clarification for certain POIs, but haven’t receive answers to those yet. Here’s the last AMA from where we were told how to make sure we’re rejecting a nomination:
While we’re on this topic, I’d like to highlight that this kind of abusive behavior on the voting queue seems to happen even more often during Challenges. It seems to me that giving this kind of incentive has the direct opposite effect on nomination quality. From my perspective it became very clear from the last Brazil challenge that people are willing to reject nominations for no reason just to fast forward through their queue and get to the rewarded reviews faster. As long as this kind of culture isn’t dealt with by Niantic, stuff like OP’s issue will keep popping up
Niantic does watch how people are reviewing, and if they do notice a pattern that could be abusive, will take action. The abuse policy isn’t limited to just submitting, but reviewing as well.
Being we do not know where the OP is, we can’t say if their nominations were rejected during the Brazil review challenge. It’s also possible that some reviewers did see their nominations as not meeting criteria and rejected them. We really can’t assume it was abusive reviewers; it could be there are newer reviewers in their area that may need to brush up on criteria.
I’m from Serbia, and I don’t know anything about challenges, I just want my town that used to have 20 stops to prosper. As I previously stated I feel like most of my nominations are decent, and anyone who actually reviews and uses the location pin I provide, with the supplementary photo which shows that the nomination is publicly accessible and safe, can deduce that the nomination is valid. And I don’t think that 2 hour timeout from voting is enough of a punishment, also during the last “edit challenge”, I was timed out multiple times because the edits people were submitting were so minuscule, such as just using a capital letter at the begging of the description, moving the nominations 1 or 2 meters, which doesn’t make a difference, etc.
Also it appears that whoever accepted the nominations also moved them so now insted of actaully getting a pokestop in game you get uselss dmax spot, not to mention that accepted pokestops dont even state that they have been moved, and also who thinks they know everything about my city, like hell, i am getring basketball courts moved even to other cells even tough they spread across two cells and can eaisly be 2 stops.
Basketball courts with more than 1 hoop should only have 1 Wayspot, not 1 Wayspot for each hoop. The court is the POI, not each hoop. And it seems abusive to nominate the other end that’s in another S2 cell just to get a stop/gym there. If I get a nomination for the other side of a court that already has a Wayspot, I’ll mark it as a duplicate.
I’ve nominated many full court basketball courts, and I usually put the pin near the half point line, outsude the field of play. This allows others to interact with the Wayspot while not interfering with a game that may be going on.
I said mural not hoop. Mural is behind one of the hoops. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT NOMINATIONS HERE 1 is a BASKETBALL COURT and the other one is a MURAL.
I’m mainly talking about being accurate with your nominations, and it seems your rejections for mismatched locations may be right. You cannot manipulate the map to guarantee you’ll have a game play location.
Reviewers have the right to mive pins to the most accurate location, but there’s a limit to how far they can move it. If they’re unable to m8ve the pin to the most accurate location, they can reject for Accuracy > Inaccurate location.
Listen, I think eveyone here would love for all of their approved Wayspots to be in whichever game they play, but the density/inclusion rules of each game makes that impossible. We can’t make up our own rules just for the sake of having game play locations. We have to follow Wayspot criteria, and if the most accurate location puts a nomination in another S2 cell that’s already occupied, well, that’s where it should be.
Being as accurate as possible is important to Wayfarer, as we’re helping create a virtual map of real world places. If there are inaccuracies with the map, we’re allowed to submit edits, however, we should be most accurate when nominating.
Hey man, my nominations are accurate and map manipulation??? Like what, tell me how is this not allowed? You see the court in both cells dont you? Where I originally placed the marker is where people usually walk by. Mural in the other cell so it should be a eligible by itself as well. I will gladly show you other wrongfully rejected nominations if you can actually do something about it and not just say “just nominate again” or “give a better description”. All reviewers should be able to use the pin I’ve provided alongside with supplementary photo to determine the location.
But you haven’t shown us anything, other than some of the photos of your nominations. You’ve even said you don’t want to post their locations.
We’re trying to help you, but you seem resistant to us helping. I know an ambo said they sent a DM to you, so I don’t know if you’ve responded back to them or not.
We fully understand your wish not to post location sensitive information.
You are correct. A mural at one side of a basketball court is perfectly eligible as a work of art. And nothing wrong with choosing which spot to place the basketball court - the obvious points are the entrance to the court or behind one of the hoops, and a definite no is on the the actual court.
Please do share the images etc via DM.
You are probably best to just discuss via DM for now.
Yes, we are trying to help, that is all. And I do say we, as I’m not the only one trying to help.
@Xronos if you feel more comfortable discussing everything via DM, please continue to pursue that route. Who can send DMs are restricted here, mainly to staff and those with mod access, such as the ambos. I don’t know if anyone explained that to you when you previously asked about discussing this via DM, as regular users can’t send DMs, only accept them.
That looks to me like it could be graffiti. Niantic has said a mural is valid, but graffiti is not - and defined it like this…
A mural is one work of art installed as one concept.
Graffiti is pieces added by different people at different times - no overarching vision from the start - basically vandalism.
I can see graffiti declined as temporary. The property owners didn’t ask for it, and could paint over it at any time. ETA: Or newer graffiti could cover it.
Hey all, I have talked to Xronos in DMs. I recommended to them to try a few suggestions first and see if the new tries give better results. There was however an entirely absurd rejection that should defintely be reported. Thanks all for helping out too!
Do you know the artist? Look for a signed portion of the mural. Something that can be referred to. When I submit Murals I really try and find the artist to not only credit them in the description, but to reference their social media in the supporting info. A little info goes a long way to credibility. If you can’t see the art on out of date streetview I would encourage you to use a GPS camera that overlays the coordinates on the picture to also help prove the location.
and map manipulation??? Like what, tell me how is this not allowed? You see the court in both cells dont you? Where I originally placed the marker is where people usually walk by. Mural in the other cell so it should be a eligible by itself as well. I will gladly show you other wrongfully rejected nominations if you can actually do something about it and not just say “just nominate again” or “give a better description”. All reviewers should be able to use the pin I’ve provided alongside with supplementary photo to determine the location.