Parish Boundary Stone #2 - ML Rejection

Hi,

I am just creating another separate thread for this ML rejection I had a few months ago, so that I can collate all of the original nomination information and add some additional information that I can cross-reference in one place for an appeal. Any advice welcome! @salixsorbus @frealafgb I think you also might be interested in this one? There isn’t as much evidence on this stone due to it not having a cut mark and the O.S. mapping is less clear. Also the lamppost, wall and vegetation is doing its best to make it difficult to get good photos. That said, the remaining inscription is much clearer than on the Faringdon Road stone and hints at an interesting story that I think meets exploration acceptance criteria.

Screenshots from the links referred to in the nomination set out below. The inscription is located on the side facing the wall so to capture it as in the photo below means that you can’t see the entire stone:

And forgot to include that “beating the historic boundaries” is an important local annual tradition, which underlines that these stones have cultural significance: Abingdon Boundary Walk 2026 | Abingdon Blog

I will have a good look when I have time
But I think it’s Mill Stream at the end.

I would do the inscription as main

You definitely want the main photo to have some inscription on it. That last photo wouid work.

I’ve posted this before, but it’s relevant here.

This has no markings and doesn’t appear to have been used as a gatepost, so it may be some sort of boundary stone.

I have not submitted it and never will, because it has no markings at all and I cannot make a convincing case to reviewers that it is something of value. I cannot even make a convincing case to myself.

Thank you for all your advice. I am going to try a resubmission rather than an appeal, with the main photo facing the engraving and description explicitly referring to the stone being engraved. I managed to closely replicate the blog photo - I hadn’t realised a photo would be clear enough using my phone at that angle in that confined space. It is also helpful that I can submit more supporting photos now. I have nominated Drayton Road on more than one previous occasion and the first photo I used had some of the writing visible and that got through ML, but was rejected by the community. In feeling forced to use a different photo for the resubmission, I think I ended up regressing in terms of visual presentation, so this time it might get past ML again. If not the nomination should be in a better shape for an appeal.

EDIT: I also discovered that the Google maps link that I pasted into the supplemental information of the previous nomination was for a place in Norwich, so it was doomed really!

I can see why you’d think that, but there is a Larkhill Stream, which joins the River Ock around the Ock Mill. It is visible on the map extract I pasted in, but the label is further north on the map extract on the other boundary stone #1 thread where it goes right past where that boundary stone is. The stream is still there, but a lot of it has been culverted under housing and other buildings.

You might like this - a found a few stoop stones and they are even older than the boundary stones. Gradually getting them all in, but it takes a bit of hunting and walking.

This still has an inscription if you peer closely enough:

Ah thanks.
I’ve been a bit busy.
See my advice in other topic about images.
I think an old map drawing attention to not only the object but things like the stream name would be helpful.

Of course a little over 24 hours post-nomination and I stumble across the evidence I have been after all along! I already had a link to the 1875 map saved from last year that I’d used to paste extracts from in this and the other thread. However, I was searching for a map with the old Wilts & Berks Canal on there and when I loaded the 1875 map I found it was a different version with the parliamentary boundary added! The boundary stone location at the bottom of the extract, as denoted by the ‘B.S’., is the point where the boundary meets Drayton Road. It is now even clearer that the engraving is describing how to follow the boundary in a northwards direction. The boundary meets the Larkhill Stream at the north of Marcham Road at the top of the extract.

Didn’t need the extra map extract for this stone:

I can still recall the afternoon (14th November 2024) when I had cycled to a couple of other known boundary stones and as I cycled by on the opposite side of the road I happened to look to my right, saw this stone and did an emergency stop!

Great stuff! that photo is soooo much better.

After I had been wayfaring for a bit, I saw things I wouldn’t normally see, since I was constantly scanning for something interesting.

One of my favourites was seeing this (supporting image):