Pokestop rejected - I want the upgrade back

I never found it to be true that the oldest pokestop became the gym, but I can’t verify that it is completely random now. Adding and liking good photos isn’t abuse fwiw.

The criteria for gyms due to the count is the same. You can only cause 3 to be created through Wayfarer. A sponsored gym does not have to follow those rules if there are already 3.

OH! I should mention that a showcase pokestop will not become a gym.

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For the benefit of other people who might review something like this, I want to walk through the tools we have to evaluate this location. (I hope OP will forgive me, but this is a great teaching opportunity for both reviewers and submitters.)

Google has the ability to see a location on street view. In the top left corner, there is a little box that shows the location (blinded for privacy) and the date of the street view (red box). If there are views of the same location from different dates, you can click where the yellow arrow is pointing.

For this location, I have 3 additional views to look at

When I click on the oldest one, 2017, I see that these boulders were here but did not have any paint. I can also see that there are metal bollards blocking access to the walkways. Then when looking at 2018, it looks like the boulders have been painted white. I would guess that’s to improve their visibility at night on this sharp, narrow corner.

Again, I mean no disrespect to the OP. When I was new to Wayfarer, I did not know that all these tools were around. They can be used to help prove your statements just as easily as to disprove your statements. They can also be very helpful in getting wayspots removed that no longer exist - it helps to show when the thing disappeared by looking back through street view history.

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However, this information is only available if you open Google Maps in a separate window/tab. The maps view looks a little different in Wayfarer.
Don’t be confused by the copyright in the lower area. This is not the date the photo was taken but always the current year.

After clicking “open in google” it looks like this:

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Yes, thanks for that update. It’s so natural to me to open the spot in Google Maps that I forgot to explain that part.

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Yep, looks like infrastructure to me. Seems there are more of these things getting nominated and rejected these days. Maybe something that needs to get added to what needs criteria clarification in the future.

We also have large rocks next to the sidewalks that give space between them and the parking loat at my apartment building. They do prevent parking in that area, as well as protect pedestrians from cars coming in and out of the parking lot. The below is not my building, but it’s from Google Maps and shows a tree planted in the grassy area between the sidewalk and the parking lot; the tree is the buffer here, as well as a concrete barrier to the left of the tree.

Anything like this where the notability isn’t obvious from the submission should include a citation, in other words a link to some reliable resource explaining it. This would typically be a local newspaper or local government web site - but it could be any other reliable source. These are good sources to look at anyway because they will often have new Points of Interest mentioned that could be wayspots.

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anyone ever care to say WHY they like to REJECT???

I do not think this is a fair question. I can’t speak for all reviewers, but the people I do discuss Wayfarer with much prefer to get nominations we can accept in review. We reject when we feel that something does not meet criteria. I hate rejecting nomination after nomination as was happening when ML was accepting all the good ones. I would love it if everything I reviewed met criteria and I could accept it.

If this nomination had come across my desk, I would not have supported it, as there is not enough supportive information to determine what you outline the ‘rocks’ to be. To most reviewers, the placement of the rocks look to keep vehicles off the nature strip and since being painted white - to help guide vehicles around the bend. When nominating a Wayspot, you need to keep in mind what the reviewers will think of your nomination. Without supporting evidence, rocks are just rocks.

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