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Hello,
Are you able to provide a photo that shows this Wayspot is still at said location? It’s not on Street View, so a photo will be needed to confirm it’s still there before Niantic can consider restoration.
Hallo,
Können Sie ein Foto bereitstellen, das zeigt, dass sich dieser Wayspot noch an der besagten Stelle befindet? Er ist nicht in Street View zu sehen, daher wird ein Foto benötigt, um zu bestätigen, dass er noch da ist, bevor Niantic eine Wiederherstellung in Betracht ziehen kann.
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schrieb am Fr., 28. Juni 2024, 22:30:
Thanks for the appeal, @BL03. After reviewing the additional evidence provided, we’ve decided to restore the Wayspot in question.
This Portal is on private grund.
Surrounded by a fence with a locked door.
My posts to removed it was misunderstanded as request for the Portal.
This Portal must be removed!
Thanks for the appeal, Explorer. The object in image you have submitted is blocked by fences, which makes your contribution ineligible. Please refer to our guidelines before making any further submissions: Photo Guidelines — Wayfarer Help Center
Hi, welcome to the forum.
Just pointing out that the area where the above discussed wayspot is pinned does not appear to be single-family private residential property, which is what would make it rejectable under the “private property” rule you mention. Wayspots with restricted access but safely accessible to people allowed to be on-site are perfectly eligible. (In addition, even if these were somehow problematic, it’s not even clear that this is one of them as your photo only includes a narrow side view, there could be unrestricted access from any other side.)
Could you also please clarify where you got this comment from Niantic that you seem to be appealing? A screenshot of the source would be great.
I posted the picture on my Post before.
Niantic self declared it as non legal Portal.
The picture is on the backside of a Garage, surrounded by fences and locked door.
This Portal has to be removed as before.
Decisions on other waypoints don’t apply as criteria to every waypoint.
The answer from niantic was for my request on the Portal Südseeträume.
Here I Show you the other side.
This Portal is on private grund, surrounded by a fence and could be removed.
@ymarlenke for Niantic, the only private property that matters is SFPRP - single family private residential property. This does not appear to be where anyone lives, and it appears to be safe for people who are allowed to be behind that gate to access. It could be painted over, but that does not make it temporary. If it is removed, you can provide evidence to have it removed then.
If you have evidence that this is single family private residential property, you should post that. It does not look like one here:
Wayspots do not have to be reachable by all players. Just safe for people who are allowed to be there.
Your answer is wrong, criteria for wayspots say:
Unzulässiger/s Ort oder Objekt
Unsicherer Ort, der nicht für Fußgänger zugänglich ist
Ort ist ein Privatgrundstück (gilt auch für historische Gebäude), Ackerland, eine Grundschule oder weiterführende Schule, eine Kindertagesstätte, ein Rehabilitationszentrum oder ein Schutzraum
How do you think this is different from what I said? I don’t see a difference when I use Google Translate.
Nicht für Fußgänger zugänglich = Not reachabe because it is surrounded by fences.
Privatgrundstück = this Portal is on a private grund.
Both requirements say that a Portal on this Position is forbidden.
Thats the reason for removing ths Portal.
You are not correct. The tool tip in the review flow is the best explanation of these issues:
These locations are appropriate:
Any location that is accessible publicly to pedestrians, both indoors and outdoors, is appropriate, including the following locations:
- Restricted - locations that restrict access to a subset of people (Gated community or members-only locations, military bases)
- Ticketed - locations that require a ticket to access like theme parks, museums that require a ticket to enter
- Businesses - indoor locations and businesses with items for purchase
These locations are not appropriate:
- Private property - A single family private residential property (even if historical), farmland, etc.
- School - a K12 and under school (preschool, primary/elementary, secondary/high school) or child care/daycare center
- Adult - Location is an adult-oriented store or service, such as a liquor store, shooting range, f***m store, or provides sexual and/or adult content.
- Sensitive - funeral homes, burial grounds, cemeteries, memorials, plantations, political campaign offices, concentration camps, homeless shelters, a***n clinics, domestic violence shelters, jails/prisons, bail bonds places, and graveyards
- Obstructs emergency operations - Locations that obstruct the driveways of emergency services or may interfere with the operations of fire stations, police stations, hospitals, military bases, industrial sites, power plants, or air traffic control towers.
- Generic - A generic business, chain, or franchise that is not uniquely important to the local community
(lol I had to bleep some of the words in the tool tip to quote it directly here)
Hi @ymarlenke ,
Tatsächlich sind nicht alle Stellen in den Kriterien vollständig up to date oder gut übersetzt.
Was die anderen versucht haben dir auf Englisch zu erklären, ist tatsächlich wahr.
Zugang für Fußgänger beschreibt nicht, dass jeder Zugang haben muss, sondern nur es überhaupt die Möglichkeit geben muss, dort stehen zu können. Die Frage, wer da rein kann, ist hier nicht relevant.
Privatgrundstück ist hier in Niantics Definition zu verstehen, und die betrifft nur einzelne Wohngebäude und Farm usw… Ein Hof in einer Wohnsiedlung mit mehreren Parteien fällt tatsächlich nicht darunter.
Für den Punkt Privatgrundstück müsstest du in irgendeiner Form zeigen können, dass es doch zu dieser Definition zutrifft. Von dem Foto und dem Satellitenbild sieht es nämlich nicht danach aus.
Außerdem, solltest du auf gar keinen Fall Fotos oder Text Edits auf Wayspots bzw. Portale hochladen, die du als Beweismittel verwenden willst. Sowas gehört in die Kanäle zum Melden wie hier im Forum rein, nicht in den Bewertungsprozess. So ein Verhalten kann zu einer Account Strafe führen, da der hochgeladene Inhalt nicht den Kriterien entspricht und sogar als missbräulich eingestuft werden könnte.
Solche Uploads sieht Niantic sowieso nicht, da der Prozess über Wayfarer größtenteils über User Bewertungen geht. Der Einspruch über Wayfarer für solche Uploads ist ebenfalls falsch.
Außerdem sagt dein Einspruch Ergebnis nicht, dass das eingereichte Objekt unzulässig ist, sonder dass das Foto deiner Einreichung wegen der blockierten Sicht durch den Zaun zur Ablehnung geführt hat
Tja, die Übersetzungen sind gelinde gesagt dürftig.
Danke für Erklärung.
