Rejected Resubmission

I was advised to resubmit with additional information. My resubmission was rejected. Why?

FIRST SUBMISSION

Wayspot Submission for Henry E. Kinney Tunnel Pedestrian Route

Fort Lauderdale FL

APPEAL NOT ACCEPTED

UPGRADED

2025-02-09

Appeal Notes

This is not a temporary or seasonal as it is a permanent pedestrian walkway through the tunnel. This is distinct because it is the only pedestrian tunnel located in Fort Lauderdale and on Federal Highway through Florida. The tunnel connects the southern and northern parts of Fort Lauderdale. The access to the walkway is completely safe as there is an entrance with a crosswalk that is separate from the main road. Furthermore, the pathway itself has a gate to prevent pedestrians from getting near the road and several inches of concrete poured between pedestrians and the road as shown in the pictures to prevent any vehicles from getting near the pathway. If this is not considered safe, then the average park with only a fence surrounding it is not safe. Thank you for reviewing my appeal.

Niantic Note

Thanks for the appeal, Explorer! The nomination in question does not meet the Wayfarer criteria as it is a common pedestrian pathway, which has no significance. If this assessment is not accurate, please resubmit the nomination with additional context. We recommend you review the Wayspot Criteria before submitting your next Wayspot contribution: Wayfarer — Niantic Technical Support and Help Center

Rejection Criteria

Other Rejection Criteria

Temporary/Seasonal or Not Distinct

Description

Constructed in 1960 and recently updated in 2024, this unique tunnel connects the northern and southern halves of Fort Lauderdale by road and sidewalk via passing through the New River. Travel down and up the sidewalk to emerge on the northern side in Downtown Fort Lauderdale.

Location

530 Federal Hwy, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301, USA

Supplemental Information

This is the only tunnel in Fort Lauderdale that passes under the New River and provides for pedestrian access to get to the northern side. The path promotes exploration and exercise, and is fully accessible without a vehicle. The recent structural improvements also reinforced the barrier offered to pedestrians walking the path!

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RESUBMISSION

Wayspot Submission for Henry E. Kinney Underwater Tunnel

Fort Lauderdale FL

NOT ACCEPTED

2025-02-18

Rejection Criteria

Wayfarer criteria

Description

Named after the chief of the Fort Lauderdale/Broward edition of the Miami Herald newspaper and constructed in 1960, with updates as recent as 2024, this tunnel is the only underwater tunnel in the state of Florida with a pedestrian path and 1 of 2 underwater tunnels in South Florida. The tunnel connects the northern and southern halves of Fort Lauderdale by passing under the New River.

Location

530 Federal Hwy, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301, USA

Supplemental Information

This pathway is safe for pedestrians to enter and exit on both sides and is unique to Florida as the only underwater tunnel with pedestrian access. This tunnel is a great wayspot as the path is a great place for exercise (only elevation gain in the area).

Hello,

This doesn’t look like a unique trail tunnel to me, just a regular sidewalk next to a street. Typically, tunnels need to be on trails to be accepted, not just going under a bridge/overpass and being a part of the infrastructure, which sidewalks are. I would have rejected this for being indistinct, so I agree with the rejection.

I understand but the Wayspot was submitted the second time as the actual tunnel. Does that change your analysis regarding whether the Wayspot is distinct?

No, to me, it’s just a part of the infrastructure of the city. It’s a sidewalk that goes under a bridge/overpass to get from one part of the city to another. We have these where I live, and they do not have Wayspots.

It also appears to mainly be a tunnel for vehicle traffic, with a safe area for pedestrians, which is another reason it looks indistinct and just a part of infrastructure.

For me, the apeal is final judgements. I dont have submitted many pokestops, around 30.

1 was rejected i knew was a bit borderline, like your tunnel and dindt do snyhng more.

2 was rejected, but I was pretty sure criterias where met, so I appealed , and got em approved.

Now I got another one rejected with reasons «wrong placement» and «unclear description» as we speak. I have no idea what that means. I use gps tools so I know it is exactly where I say it is, down to an inch.

Unclear description… dunno I added the myth-story in description, I have no idea what is unclear about that.

So for me a clear apeal, I expect being approved, but if not, just move on.

And that is my suggestion. I agree the tunnel as it stands is not a POI, I dont know the history around it. Make your case, if the apeal is not in your favour just move on and dont think more of it.

I had a case here too where the community on this site agreed with rejections, but in the end apeal aproved it.

So to stress my point, if appeal fails, let it go.

Does the level of distinction matter on a community level, national level, or international level? This is the only underwater tunnel with pedestrian access in Florida as stated in the description. The tunnel goes under the New River that connects to the ocean. Do your community tunnels typically have names?

It’s still going to be hard to get approved, as it doesn’t look like a unique underwater tunnel. Are you actually able to see the water while walking through the tunnel? If so, that would make for a better photo. If not, then I don’t know if it’ll get approved.

Most tunnels are a part of trail systems, that do have names. The one pedestrian tunnel, and it’s only for pedestrians, that is near me is a part of the trail system at 2 parks. It connects Milwaukee Park to the south with Brunsdale Park to the north, and the trail is also a part of the city trail; go further north and you’ll get to the pedestrian bridge that goes across Interstate to connect further north. It’s known as the Brunsdale/Milwaukee Parks pedestrian tunnel; the trail also used to be a part of the Milwaukee rail route, hence the name of one of the parks.

The main photo doesn’t show me a solely pedestrian tunnel, and I don’t see anything in the photos showing an official name. It just looks like a regular tunnel for vehicles and pedestrians, not a part of any trail, and just regular infrastructure. More is going to be needed to prove this is distinct, such as a plaque with the name on it, better photos of the inside if you can see the water, possibly a link to info on the tunnel for the supporting info, just to name a few.

The name of the tunnel is located directly on the tunnel…? But I appreciate your guidance nonetheless.

A close-up on the name would make for a better main photo. That’s hard to see in your current main photo. You can use a photo of the sign to place mark the tunnel, then use another photo of the wider area for your supporting photo.