Except that this is not true. The closest area near a house, regardless if it’s private or a multitenant building is not public.
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Inom hemfridszonen har fastighetsägaren eller hyresgästen full rådighet över marken
Its in singular it does not apply to multi tenant houses.
Read again.
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What part are you referring to?
Hemfridszonen är området närmast runt ett bostads- och fritidshus där den boende har rätt till ett privat område och att få vara ostörd. Inom hemfridszonen har fastighetsägaren eller hyresgästen full rådighet över marken, och ingen får vistas där utan lov av denne. Inom hemfridszonen gäller således inte allemansrätten.
All in singular.
Det är tillåtet att sätta upp ett staket runt hemfridszonen vid sitt bostadshus eller fritidshus.
Still singular.
So if your the only one/family living thre it it would apply
Swedish law, Brottsbalken §6 4 kap says different.
It’s even in the comments.
But let’s be clear here. I’m not saying that the object in the wayspot is ineligible. I’m saying that your interpretation of allemansrätt vs hemfridszon is wrong.
In im not a lawyer and im going to use google translate to help others.
Section 6 Anyone who unlawfully enters or remains in someone else’s home or other similar accommodation is sentenced for breach of domestic peace to a fine or imprisonment for a maximum of one year. Anyone who unlawfully enters or remains in a garden, on a courtyard or in another similar place that belongs to the home or residence is also convicted of trespassing.
This is still a in singular. “The home” as in a single family home.
Also let say a will accept your argument will you please remove Luggude Härads Sparbank as well? There the the familys living there has complained. Something that has not been done by the people at this portal.
Out of curiosity since there’s extensive discussion on this whole concept of open space, at what point does common decency come in to play where you just don’t go creeping around people’s personal space? I mean, how disconcerting can it be to have some stranger walking outside your bedroom window just to play a video game.
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You dont have to be creeping in the yard. It’s you can access it from the sidwalk and even the other side of the street.
Only if it’s close enough. In theory for something to be considered eligible as a way spot, you have to be able to walk up to it.
The item under discussion here might be close enough to the sidewalk, but what another one isn’t and you have to go into someone’s garden to reach it?
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Your able to reach it in this area
Just remember that Niantic is asking us to nominate wayspots for current and future games. This is why they have the requirement that you need to be ‘close enough to touch the wayspot’.
Ingress has game dynamics that only work if you are right there.
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You can interpret it any way you like, but good luck defending your standpoint legally if ever comes to that.
What has a completely different wayspot to do with your original appeal and the actual discussion? If that’s a concern for you, open a separate ticket.
Not at all surprised to see you sharing your skewed input in this discussion… With the same attitude as last time this was up for debate in another appeal on the same subject. It’s almost as there is an understanding in some community that, no matter what, there will be no couch portal for certain agents, right? Was it perhaps yourself who initiated the reports? You did come knocking just a day or two after the portal was online, didn’t you?
The portal in question meets the criteria. It’s a permanent fixture and there are four households in the building on which grounds it stands. It can be reached from the pavement and you can get well in under the shields from there to use US. If you reach over the fence, you can touch it too. There are no gates, if you want to move in even closer and hug the sculpture in question.
It is somewhat telling that there seems to be a double standard when it comes to portals here in our little part of the game. If it’s an agent from the other team’s couch portal, just about anything goes and removing it, is almost impossible regardless of criteria, other people’s privacy and what not. I bet if they erected the Eiffel Tower or Cheop’s pyramid here within 40 m from where I live, it would be removed right?
This is abuse of the wayfarer concept and some agents should be warned or even banned for this…
Stop talking about factions. Niantic will make the decision, and they don’t care about factions. You bringing up faction nonsense makes the whole situation more hostile than it needs to be. It’s just a game
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Read again, and read what I wrote. I have never said in this thread that the object in ineligible.
I have not claimed it should be removed.
What I am saying that I highly doubt that anyone in the building would share the originally stated opinion that the grass very next to the object is public domain.
But you are saying that if any random person, or persons, decide to camp by the object, on the grass, they are free to do so from your interpretation of public right?
Why stop talking about factions? This has all to do with factions. The reason this portal is now removed for the fifth time, has all about what faction the agent belongs to whom this is a couch portal. This is abuse of the wayfarer concept, nothing less. We all know this in our local community. We have an active agent from the other team here in the thread that does his little sing-and-dance number, but we all know what’s going on. He too…
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Because factions have nothing to do with wayfarer. Wayfarer and the light ship database are game agnostic. It doesn’t matter if a way spot is a highly used portal or PokéStop. If the way spot is reported For deletion, it’s reviewed and decided. It’s a lot harder to get things out of the database than everyone seems to think. But, mistakes happen, which is why you can appeal. But game issues have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not that appeal will be successful.
If you believe someone is abusing the system for advantages within a particular game, you can report that separately with the report abuse button above.
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Well, then… Isn’t it a tad strange that the same portal get approved in wayfarer, gets online and then gets taken down within a week no less than five times? Last time we had a go about the same thing, it got online and then removed four times in three months!
Well, if what he says is true and this portal has been submitted, approved and then deleted FIVE times, then perhaps this would warrant a more permanent solution from Niantic because there’s clearly something fishy going on.
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