The Rejection was for the Typo AND “Permanent or Distinct”.
If the 2nd one puts it in to the 50 / 50 bracket then I could see someone nudging in to Reject with the typo.
The Rejection was for the Typo AND “Permanent or Distinct”.
If the 2nd one puts it in to the 50 / 50 bracket then I could see someone nudging in to Reject with the typo.
If we focus on the issue of should one small slip push this to reject …..
Then in my view this is a small typo, it’s remains clear what it is and what the title is meant to be. I would be assessing the text under accuracy and under accuracy I would give a I don’t know. If it had been in the description I would probably just given a ![]()
Having done that I look at the rest of the nomination are there any other accuracy issues…..it certainly doesn’t look like it, the photo is good, the description seems good. Unless there is something else then accuracy is fine as an IDK .
So to see that as a rejection reason seems too harsh.
Whether these routes should be considered like NCN is a different question and I would think explains the not distinct reason.
So it could be an accept or reject but I don’t think having text problem as a reject reason is correct.
And that is wrong. That is the point being made. I won’t reply again since this is going in circles, but this is an important point to be made.
If a title swings you away from a 50/50 nomination, meaning its now 49/51… that 1 percent shouldn’t be 100% the rejection reason… or part of the rejection reason at all.
It should be quite clear that “rote” is simply American English ![]()
I have only seen “staff” comments that small typos where it can still be understood should not be used to Reject but I have never seen where it states that it shouldn’t be included when using “Best Judgement” to make a decision.
We seem to be getting where “Use your Best Judgement” is a common phrase here but often it should be “Use your Best Judgement unless you disagree with us”.
I will also step back from the thread as I believe I have already made my opinion clear.
Please do. You (and Salixsorbus) ignored the point of my post and repeatedly talked down to me as if I know nothing about wayfarer, and derailed the topic considerably
It is not nice experiencing an onslaught of people telling me my nomination is not eligible and trying to make me feel like I was wrong to submit a trail marker, when I explained quite clearly that this wasn’t the point of the post, and that Niantic have accepted a lot of these local cycle trails so I was confident in submitting them.
Please think about how you come across. If this had been my first forum post, I wouldn’t have come back because of the tone used in the first part of this topic.
Thankyou for the clear response! That was what I wanted to talk about, as to whether the title rejection was fair because I didn’t feel it was.
I wouldn’t reject someone else’s submission for a small typo ie 1 missing/incorrect letter, not if it was readable and clear. Voting “I don’t know” makes sense rather than a reject if the typo was an issue.
My take on this. I ignore typos - unless the nomination is questionable. If I have doubts, a typo can lead me to reject.
Saying that, yesterday, i corrected one of my typos when I walked by one of “my” spots. There is zero reason to reject nominations just because of a little spelling error.
Yeah if this was accepted I’d have asked for the typo to be fixed - I hadnt noticed till it was in voting so couldn’t do anything.
As you have made comments in regards to my conduct I will just give my replies to them…
Where did we talk down to you and nobody made any comments about your knowledge of Wayfarer.
We discussed this nomination and those similar and answered why it may have been rejected.
I did not say your nomination was not eligible. My original reply stated “I agree with the 1 letter spelling error being a bit harsh for a rejection.” but added My Opinion that this type of nomination is 50/50 and 1 that I am likely to use my option to “Skip” therefore NOT Rejecting it.
Where did I state this.
Which proves that many Reviewers are Rejecting them.
I stand by every comment I have made in this thread. If “Staff” would like to state where I have said anything against the forum rules and give me a warning I would happily accept it.
If this was my 1st post I would have been glad that people stated the reason it “might have” been rejected. If it had been a 1st time poster we may have included possible solutions such as “Re-Submit” with the correction or Appeal. Something with your advanced Wayfarer Knowledge was not required.
I will apologise if you took any of my comments as a personal attack, that wasn’t the intention but I still believe in the comments I made.
Good luck with getting the nomination sorted.
I see these cycle markers the same as my hiking trail marker stickers They get rejected all the time by the reviewers for not being distinct.
An appeal solves the issue. That does not fix the issue of the amount though😅.
The thing sometimes with community votes, especially on certain submissions like hiking or cycling markers, reviewers either vote with the majority for agreement, are not informed correctly about these or reject them based on knowlegde that these markers are everywhere which all is incorrect.
Typo or not, I accept them, unfortunately my local reviewers do differently and do not review well enough, oh well
No-one talked down to you. Two of us disagreed with you and your reaction is a little offensive.
IT might come down to the ReadyBike bit. This is the correct spelling I believe for the former ReadyBike cycle hire scheme run by Reading Council. And that might be part of the problem for some reviewers.
I say former as the ReadyBike scheme collapsed in 2019. And interweb searches do not bring up in ReadyBike Cycle Trails. There are hints that some ReadyBike pods still exist. Inter web
So maybe some people are reacting to the title 'cause the interweb is not a help for that title.
I say may as we really have no idea why particular people made certain decisions. - basically how the mix of things impacts the decision making process. We can surmise that people just click on reject and click a reason.
Reading has heaps of routes as you say. and the RBC website has some nifty route maps
that back these up.
Given the area was developed completely in the last few years and it’s relatively new sign, I don’t think its defunct. That pavement is quite newly laid as the tower block behind it was finished in something like 2021, maybe more recently than that even. I only noticed these signs in the last few months. Reading has been expanding the network of biking trails and I think theyre using the ready bike logo in conjunction with the Reading Cycle Routes logo.
Like I mentioned already, I am not really worried about if this is eligible in terms of posting tjis topic. I wasnt looking for advice on cycle routes. These trails are regularly accepted either on review or by appeal. I had wanted to discuss the rejection for title based on 1 single letter missing, but no one seems interested in that
Well personally i just resubmit if i got typo rejection. There are many other wrong rejection.. whats needed is new wayfarer education.
But until then i just move on
I hear you. Having seen some of my spellos get through I kinda wish they had been rejected ![]()
I am hinting maybe it was not just the single letter missing. But a combination of things. Letter and ReadyBike – I do agree a single letter is pedantic (which I can be (cough cough I am
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But to some reviewers a rule is a rule is a rule. It is absolute. I think there was another discussion about how some people read things. Ambiguity and nuances will not come into the equation as the way some minds work is a rule is a rule is a rule.
I just noticed the Tiny Logo. Square middle of the sign. Suspect the signs are quite old then as RBC don’t use that anywhere in their collatoral. There in lies that problem. Hard to find the evidence!!
Sorry @frealafgb I am going down my rabbit hole of research
I tried to resubmit, but that was when the wayfarer site was not working yesterday so it didn’t work. I will resubmit it eventually. I wasn’t expecting my nomination to suddenly turn to being accepted, I was expecting a proper discussion of why people thought 1 single letter was sufficient to reject for a bad title. Clearly the forum isn’t capable of that type of discussion
I wasn’t clear when you refer to a rule is a rule exactly what you are referring to.?
to me the word rule is something quite strict. There are very few hard rules Eg under 18 locations.
I try to not view the questions asked during review as rules but questions that direct me to think about interpreting the guidance towards that wayfarer motto “Use your best judgement”
It will always be a grey area if a typo occurs in a title or description. It is to be expected that for any one mistake there will be a range of outcomes. You might reasonably expect a few at the extremes of total reject or total accept with most in the middle.
We can’t predict when our precious nomination goes into a review stream how those judgement calls will come out.
OK so I was referring to an early discussion on neurodivergent issues. Best to go back to that. IT is not about any specific rule. It is how we approach rules/guidelines
My hypothesis is that there may be people who see things as black and white. Their best judgement is black and white. As such they meet the reviewing rules criteria.
I respect that. I have been frustrated by it. I have probably exacted the same interpretation myself.
So to answer frealgb - why are people pedantic about one letter - it is just so picky. Maybe - these people see these things differently to other people.
I also said - it maybe a combination of things. If I researched for BikeReady bike trails in Reading I would find most likely zero evidence of these (I did and in my limited research found nothing). I also see a spelling mistake. What I click to reject it - is the spelling mistake what I selected first? Maybe
We can all focus on one letter. It might be pedantic to us. Not the reviewer. It might be more than one thing for rejection but they only selected spello. Who knows…?
I am just saying - we are not in the mind of the reviewer — WE have zero idea why they decided to reject. One letter rejection does appear picky but we must also consider that for some people it is not picky due to how their minds work. And for some people it may have been not just the letter.
Just saying