Identical title, description, and supporting information

Heyo everyone,
I have been running into a lot of nominations that have identical titles, descriptions, and supporting information, as well as using the same picture in the photo submission and supporting picture. How do you guys usually respond to nominations like that? Always seems to be a gray area for me when the submission looks fine but there was obviously no effort put in on the nominators part.

Example -
Title: Public Park Playground
Description: Public Park Playground
Supporting Information: Public Park Playground

Im usually skipping these out of my own morals, like why should i put effort into reviewing if there was no effort made to nominate, but I was curious if there is a better way to handle these submissions.

I would lean towards rejecting on the basis of a bad title. It’s not hard to describe the official name / road / village / suburb / whatever. It’s just lazy, and frankly there are enough crappily named wayspots in the game already…

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fair point, maybe a bad example then lol.
What if it was a perfectly fine title, like ā€œJohnson Park Wooded Playgroundā€, but copied into every field

This is bad practice, but is not specifically a rejection reason. It is a red flag that they may have only used the one photo because they only had the one photo and it was third party. I would use Google Lens and check Google photos to see if the photo was published somewhere else.

Also bad practice but also not a rejection reason imo. But this will be a judgment call. If it isn’t wrong or irrelevant, I would recommend an accept. Maybe with an ā€œI don’t knowā€ under accuracy in the text box. They are missing a chance to explain their nomination if they do this.

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I don’t recommend rejecting for a ā€œlazyā€ title. Only for an incorrect or ineligible one.

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Agreed, that’s a massive red flag. To me that means it’s likely that it is either completely fake or the main photo is stolen from somewhere else.

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That would be OK by me. Descriptions are not terribly important and there’s only a limited amount of stuff you can say about a playground. As long as the title is distinct, correctly spelled and uses Title Case (for English) then I’d have no problem with it.

i have seen cases where people i know are not cheaters have forgotten to take a second photo, or found one of the photos to be unuseable after getting back to submit remotely, so it can be legit, but those should be checked very carefully!

i didn’t even think to mention ai, and that is a big reason something would only have one photo.

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I reject unless I feel generous, which is quite rare. We are /allowed/ to reject because of lousy descriptions, but are not forced to.

Same photo and supporting image (or cropped from the supporting image) - reject almost every time.

When I submit something, I aim for top quality. In reviewing though, the bar for acceptable is much lower. I only would reject if it is unacceptable.

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It sounds like you guys are reviewing looking for things to reject, rather than reviewing looking for acceptable nominations.

I would ask yourselves why.

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Personally, I intensely dislike lazy submissions. Examples are things that might well exist, but the submitter has made absolutely no attempt to help the reviewer confirm the location, and has either pointed the supporting photo away from the POI (which is always a red flag even though it could be out of idoicy/misunderstanding) or has made it impossible to match up the photo or supporting photo with anything visible on streetview or ā€˜satellite’.

For submissions with no streetview (most trail markers in the countryside), but an good-enough narrative, I’m either accepting or skipping.

I know I’m a harsh reviewer and think people should just but a tiny bit of effort in, not be quite so slapdash, but don’t expect every submission to be as good as I hope mine are. I don’t see a problem with this - not everyone has to review the same way.

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That’s what edits are for. If the submitter found something eligible and submits the basics, I’d prefer to accept, and then someone else passing with more attention to detail can improve it later.

ā€œLazyā€ could also be dyslexic, forgot to update before it went into voting, or lack of knowledge. Better to encourage and develop the map I’d say rather than reject

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NianticAaron has already weighed in on this kind of issue:

We can rely on some unknown random person to at some unknown point in the future have the inclination to look at the description let alone care to edit it, instead of just spinning it as yet another pokestop.

I am not going to accept something on that basis.

Part of improving the map is making sure what gets added is legitimate and decent quality. This is possibly more important than just /more pokestops/.

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I would edit it. So would you. It takes a couple of minutes. And in fact it sounds like we are going to get the option to do that remotely too soon, so even easier!

I never said to accept ineligible things. I said to accept eligible things that you deem lazy and I say meet the minimum standard. Even Aaron has told you that you’re being too strict as cyndie showed above.

Aaron already addressed your concerns on this post:

He said to accept if acceptable.

And this is directly stated in https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/new/help/wayfarer-faq

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I am aware of that. He did say to vote accordingly, which is open to interpretation. I care about the quality of what I submit and care about the quality of what I review, but to a lesser extent.

I think what we are saying is you seem to care more than Niantic want you to care.

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Agreed :slight_smile: