Wayfair rejected not understanding

Most parks don’t have those anyway they’re sidewalks people walk around on. People can socialize and exercise and meetup. You’re trying to make up an issue here when there isn’t one

Coming from someone who actually lives here it’s not. It’s open for anyone anytime

The property behind that sign is open to everyone? No, it definitely isn’t.

The public streets and sidewalks??? Yes they definitely are

We are not talking about the sidewalks and the general area, but about this sign. Which is on the boundary of the property.

Here are two more angles about the SFPRP issue



The sign appears to be inside the property line.

I really hate that it feels like we are jumping on your case about this. We are trying to explain why we don’t see this as eligible.

Was this rejected by the automated process for not meeting criteria? Or does your contribution have a different rejection reason on it? I don’t see it in the screenshots you posted.

Do you see any gates/signs that indicate private property? Google even says this is public property.

What matters for wayspots is the actual location of the POI, not the general area. This sign has a very specific location and that location is what is important.

@cyndiepooh good luck

We have tried to explain why we feel this sign meets rejection criteria:
https://niantic.helpshift.com/hc/en/21-wayfarer/section/166-wayspot-criteria/

After this discussion, if you still feel it was wrongly rejected, you do have the opportunity to appeal directly to Niantic. We get 2 appeals, each on a 15 day counter before we can use them again. If you do not see the “Appeal” button on your contribution, then you do not currently have one to use. I would not recommend appealing this.

I would recommend checking out the shopping center just to the south. It looks like they have several exercise businesses, which could be good nominations. Sometimes reviewer don’t understand the “Generic business” rejection and you have to appeal them, but they are by design great places to exercise, and usually to be social. I am not familiar with that grocery chain, but might be worth checking inside for murals like Trader Joe’s have.

The sign appears to be part of the boundary wall around that house; as such it would be a violation of the single family residential rule. If it were a freestanding structure separate from the house’s boundary wall/fence, as these often are (and as you may be comparing to), or if the building was not a single family house, it might be eligible, but you would then have to convince of its merits.

Personally I tend to accept all of these as they are navigational landmarks, but in nominating my own, I have almost always had them rejected (with one exception) when they have no artwork (in other words, when the sign only contains text).

These types of signs are not as common in the UK, but are starting to spring up on some modern housing estates. I noticed one on a brick wall had been accepted as a wayspot last year, so I had a go at nominating a similar brick structure on the development around the corner. It got rejected by ML. Shortly afterwards I saw it had been demolished! The one that is a wayspot is still in situ.

I tend to avoid these “Estate Sign” conversations as…

  • They are definitely devisive.
  • We have similar (although much rarer) markers (Village not just an Estate) that are easy Accepts.

My argument is when nominators argue that they meet all 3 of the main criteria which I don’t agree. These things would still happen if the sign was removed…

  • Socialise: “Neighbours will meet here and socialise” would be “I will meet you on the corner of…”
  • Exercise: “Many locals pass these whilst exercising” is not going to turn in to “Can’t jog that way, there is no estate sign”.
  • Explore: “I was going to explore that estate but I can’t find it, if only someone would invent an electronic device that could show us the directions”

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

For the UK “Village Boundary Signs” these can be standard metal signs similar to road signs which don’t get accepted.

Build a stone plinth and fasten the metal sign or a large rock with the metal sign attached are much rarer and get accepted.

Edit to add: Lots of the UK markers will also mention historic parts of the village to explore. The local one mentions a Barn that was built in the 13th century.

A couple of the Abingdon welcome signs have become wayspots - they contain the crest and mention the places that Abingdon is twinned with:

The nearby village of Drayton, has three of these more artistic signs, which I believe are all wayspots:

I recently tried a sign like this for my town, rejected for not distinct and no pedestrian access, because as we all know, grass is just green lava and cannot be walked on :sweat_smile:

I’ve done my old trick of cutting off the public footpath that passes right next to that sign!

Exactly what navigating do you do from neighborhood signs? I do not understand.

I grew up in a rural area. A dumpster or a weird mailbox can be a landmark. A sign with unique words on it? Sure.

I think I get what you are saying. But a dumpster or someone’s weird mailbox would not be eligible either.

People keep jumping to weird conclusions on this forum, assuming I meant things I didn’t say.

I didn’t say I think those things are or should be eligible. Just that I’ve had people give directions using them as landmarks. A named community sign serves the same purpose, but since it is giving information itself in addition to just being used as a landmark, the eligibility might be different, yes.