While still unfinished, they became wayspots in 2023, with photos taken thru fences to possibly conceal the fact that they are still under construction. Some of the descriptions say these kiosks WILL provide information.
I passed by them today (there are several of them, more than got approved). It’s August of 2024, but they are still unfinished, still surrounded by fences, and still have no information:
So, can these unfinished POIs be removed? When they are finished (whatever year/decade/century it happens in ), they can be submitted with photos showing the final result, and they will actually be providing information.
If they can’t be removed, then I’d like to know at which point of construction/creation we can nominate wayspots.
They are building a pedestrian bridge over the wash there, so I’d love to be the first to nominate it, even though it’s unfinished and unusable:
Without knowing the intent on the fencing, I could infer the fencing could be placed there to protect the ornament (sorry, can’t think of the right word here) rather than show it being under construction. I don’t think the fencing is grounds for removal, unless there is evidence to show that these ornaments are in the process of being removed.
Regardless, as blank without content on them, they arent performing their intended function and thus dont meet the criteria they would if they were functioning
I see your point. However, I would leave it as it is, and once the construction has completed, if it turns out not to be what is described, you can submit a removal reqeust and it may get removed.
Thanks for the appeal, @Itsutsume. We took another look at the Wayspots in question and decided that they do not meet our criteria for removal at this time.
There are a number of possible reasons for the fencing. I am not going to make assumptions about why it’s there. Does the installation look new? Sure… but do I know for sure just by looking at the photo that it is new and not undergone cleaning and renovation? Nope. I could look at Google StreetView to check if I was inclined, but I know in some cases Google StreetView is out of date.
I posted streetview that shows that the fencing appeared BEFORE these kiosks (and before this fencing appeared, there was nothing). The fencing is sloppy and is from a company called National Rent-A-Fence as can be seen on the photos. RENT-A-Fence, not BUY-A-Fence. I also posted a photo of a bridge being built in the same area. If you look at all this and think “Well, it’s kinda hard to make assumptions about what’s going on here, this fence might be permanent”, I don’t know what to tell you without Niantic banning me from the forum.
My comments were not designed to upset you or anyone else. If you feel upset with how I see things, then I am unsure what to say. I’m offering my perspective and it’s not the opinion of Niantic or anyone else. If you feel passionate about getting these waypoints removed, then I wish you well in getting them removed.
How you conduct yourself on here is up to you. I’m not going to bait you into doing anything. If you can’t appreciate other people’s opinions, regardless of whether it’s right or wrong in your mind, I’m not sure what to say.
I suspect Niantic just doesn’t want to set precedence to removal for this type of removal request. It’s not a clarification that this action is always acceptable.
Well, you are entitled not to see sense in other people’s opinions, just as I am entitled to see sense and not see sense in your opinions. The difference between you and myself, is that I do see your point of view, but I don’t necessarily agree that your removal request should be accepted, otherwise every construction of signs will result in lots of POI’s being removed worldwide.
You think they just don’t want to create a precedent for removing a wayspot for a POI that is still being constructed and that doesn’t serve its intended purpose just yet. I think they just created a precedent implying that it’s OK to submit wayspots of such POIs - if they get approved, they won’t be removed. Who’s to tell us who is correct here besides Niantic? And until they do tell us, I will continue thinking that way.
Then you need to provide a compelling statement saying why it should be removed. Niantic have already stated based on your current submission and what you have posted on here that they won’t be removing it. I offered my opinion and you seem to take offense to it. I’ll call it a day on this post, as you don’t like people offering an opinion. And yes, I know… you didn’t ask for peoples opinions, you just want something removed because you have a problem with the waypoints.
None of your opinions offended me. I just find it amusing when I present evidence, especially when it leaves very little room for guesswork (like in this case), and then someone feels the need to say, “Well, yeah, but maybe it’s this way and not the way you think it is”. Maybe you just don’t know how things are done here where I live. Maybe where you live they do things differently. But here constructions usually are not done sloppily, although they can take forever, and construction sites usually are surrounded by temporary fence that is removed after construction is completed. Even if some permanent fence is being build around something, the area where it will be build is usually surrounded by a temporary fence first. Like in this case - they put temporary fences (and in somewhat sloppy way) around the areas where these kiosks will be built before starting to build them.
Thanks for the advice, but it’s not about getting them all removed. I just expressed my opinion that wayspots for POIs that are being constructed and don’t serve their purpose just yet should be removed until they are finished, and it was in reply to your statement that in such cases a lot of wayspot will be removed. You expressed your opinion about what should be done with such wayspots already. We both read Niantic’s guidelines. We just understand and interpret them differently, so our opinions of what should be done to such wayspots differ. We can agree to disagree here.
), they can be submitted with photos showing the final result, and they will actually be providing information.
