Why is this being rejected as unsafe?

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This submission is a permanent community sign marker on a major Trailway that was built several miles long and expanding as a major Parks and Recreation initiative. Buckner Park is 1.6 km from proposed marker, which is also expanded and being built up. This market provides an excellent point for Wayfaring along the several mile trail for the Hickory Pointe residents and surrounding sub division residents that are also attached to the trail.

Greeting.

I know this reason might not making sense to you, but you need to cross the road and there is no pedestrian path to the community sign marker.

It is an unsafe location due to how you need to cross the car road and get into the “middle” of the road.

This is laterally the crosswalk of the trail itself. It is in front of a subdivision not a major road.

A neighborhood sign meets no criteria imo. How is it a great place to exercise, explore, or be social?

I agree there is no safe pedestrian place to stand here. You don’t stand in a crosswalk, you keep crossing. There is no space at the sign that is conducive to standing there.

If there are markers for this trail, I would suggest submitting these, and include a link in the supporting section to show that this is not just a sidewalk (infrastructure).

There are many subdivision signs in Niantic Games, so there is precedent. How else will the Games Expand and bring the game to suburban areas that are built specifically for exercise eg: Biking. walking and running. This several mile trail is part of the City Parks and Recreation initiative called Puffer Belly Trail. It connects to routes all over Fort Wayne and the surround areas. It is a wayfarer marker (stop) not a place to stand. This gives points for routes that have been added to Niantic Games.

I did submit the Google maps Geo Location of the proposal, the link is above. It clearly shows that this is a several mile paved trail. it is even represented in the Niantic Game Maps.

I think the idea of an accessible Pedestrian walkway is the surround wayspot must have someway to be walkable around it, otherwise it is unsafe.

That doesn’t actually matter at all. You shouldn’t use what’s on the map as what’s acceptable. Sometimes bad things slip through that shouldn’t be on the map, or they were placed a long time ago when the criteria was different.

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If that is the case all city sidewalk stops need to be removed.

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It does matter because rural players and hiking trails should get included in the game. This stop meets the exact criteria of the Wayfarer Mission. It provides a marker on a major hiking, biking trail that connects communities, parks. Which promotes creation of routes and exploration of ones surrounding community while enjoying Niantic games responsibly.

I’m not debating whether should or shouldn’t be on the map.

I’m saying that you shouldn’t judge what’s acceptable now based on what you see on the map.

You can see some older criteria here - OPR Candidate Action Guide - A Wayfarer History Lesson

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I have already read that, and it doesn’t apply here. The games cannot grow and reach more audience if community signs along major walking, biking and running paths are denied as unsafe when they were made to be safe for such activity by the municipal Parks and Recreation Departments building them. You can’t create new routes or exploration without them.

Hi @FuppedDuck76

Welcome to the forum :hugs:

I’ve moved your topic to Nomination Support because the category Wayspot Appeals is for rejected removal reports or to ask for reinstating removed wayspots.

Hi @AliceWonder1511 Thank you I took the category to mean rejected wayspot appeals, my appologies.

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@FuppedDuck76

Every response has told you that that location is not safe. No-one apart from you has suggested that would be a good place to have a wayspot.

Every wayspot needs to be safe to access, meaning safe to stand at at a distance of 0m. No exceptions.

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I agree that this location is unsafe as per Niantic’s rules and the examples we have seen here.

Wayfarer has its set criteria and guidelines and we are expected to abide by them. As for game locations, that’s a decision for the game teams to make. They have added locations directly in the past to boost gameplay in some locations.

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Why would they need to be removed? Asking to understand your opinion.

Hi @Mystogan5097 So you believe that a major 4 foot wide paved trail specifically built for pedestrians and bicyclists by the municipal Parks and Recreation department is unsafe? How are people supposed to create routes if you add no waypoints along these several mile long paths connecting communities? The criteria does not lend to your assessment, your assessment is why Niantic games are suffering from dwindling player base instead of expanding to new players in suburban and rural areas that are safer and more conducive for exercise and exploration.

They aren’t listening to anyone and we are all just talking into the void.

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