A friend tried to re-nominate this proposal of mine. But why did the AI reject it?

Proposta di Wayspot per Bar Nexus

Genzano di Roma RM

Genzano di Roma RM (41.711462,12.685616)

Non accettate

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2026-02-23 - Rejected

Questa proposta è stata rifiutata dal processo automatizzato di Niantic perché non aderiva ai criteri di Wayfarer

Descrizione

Caffetteria dal design moderno e d’avanguardia, caratterizzata da un’iconica insegna luminosa. Il locale rappresenta un punto di riferimento sociale fondamentale per il quartiere di Genzano di Roma, fungendo da luogo di aggregazione per colazioni, pause caffè e aperitivi conviviali.

Posizione

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Local maps (:italy:): Geoportale Nazionale*

20 Viale Fratelli Rosselli

Genzano di Roma, Lazio

Visualizza su Google Maps

Viale Fratelli Rosselli, 16/20, 00045 Genzano di Roma RM, Italia

Informazioni supplementari

Il Nexus Caffè risponde pienamente al criterio di ammissibilità “Un ottimo posto per socializzare con gli altri”. È un’attività locale consolidata che funge da fulcro per la comunità di Genzano, incoraggiando l’interazione sociale in un ambiente dal design curato e distintivo. Molto frequentato come dimostrato dalle foto. Buone recensioni da parte dei clienti e esperti: Nexus Caffè, Genzano di Roma - Menu del ristorante, prezzi e recensioni

We don’t know exactly why the Machine Learning model rejects. But I usually will try a new main photo that more clearly highlights what I am submitting when it rejects one of mine. If this is the photo they used, it may have appeared to be a random photo of a storefront. They still have the option to appeal if they believe that it meets criteria and they don’t want to try a new submission.

considera questa candidatura l’avevo già presentata io e persi anche il ricorso…
speriamo bene

Oh, I did not mean to say that the appeal would be a sure accept. Businesses are difficult nominations. They want evidence that the place is significant to the community.

And a rejected appeal does not mean that you cannot submit it again. Let me find the wording on that.

Okay here is a screenshot of an appeal rejection (that was overturned) with that wording that you can submit it again:

beh, qui c’è una foto di un bar pieno zeppo di gente. I bar molto frequentati sono esplicitati come esempio anche nelle loro linee guida.

um, where do you see this?

ultima riga

WOW! It says coffee shops there on my version, but does say bars on yours!

(I agree both are great places to be social, but that is some translation difference!)

I think a bar in Italian can be a coffee/espresso bar, not just an alcohol place?

In fact, I believe this is the root cause of many discussions I’ve had on here. The translations of the guidelines and criteria simply don’t match up. Furthermore, depending on the language, certain words can carry completely different nuances

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In Italy, a bar is a place where people go especially for breakfast and aperitifs

all this says it that i shouldn’t try to help if the post has to be translated. will leave it to folks who have other languages.

Ok yes that’s what I thought, a alcohol bar/pub is a taverna or something right? I am wondering if ML might have been confused by the translation? Did your friend take new photos, and was your nomination rejected by the community or ML?

Well, I think helping is always a nice thing. Translations aside, I learned a lot here.

My friend’s application was rejected by the AI. Mine was rejected by the community and even by Niantic itself after I appealed.

I think your expertise is always welcome and people can chime in if they have anything more country/language specific. If anything, it might also help highlight what ML/appeal reviewers might not understand

Right and did your friend take new photos/write new texts or did they use yours?

He used my secondary photo, but his own as the main photo. The text was revised, but he wrote more or less what I told him to write.

This may answer the question, if the AI detected that 2 different accounts used the same image it rejected.

All photo’s should be taken by the nominator.

Try getting new photo and resubmit with better evidence.