Title: Letreiro Arquitectónico das Laranjeiras
Description: Concrete structure with stylized metallic letters that serves as an urban identification landmark and visual design feature of the Laranjeiras area.
Hey guys! Hope everyone is having a good day, I’m gonna be honest, I’m definitely using my appeal on this “pokestop”, but I’m really curious on why this wouldn’t be a distinct or pemanent thing.
It’s literally a Metallic structure built by the government with the name of the place, stuck to the ground.
I don’t know if its because google maps is not updated to certain places (which I have seen happen) or people just don’t care to even look at the image, but how isn’t this permanent or distinct…? Genuine question.
Thank you for stopping by and helping me
Could we see the rest of the contribution, including location?
Reviewers were most likely rejecting as “not distinct”, as in not significant enough to be a wayspot. The place the sign represents might be a good Wayspot - I can’t tell - but the sign itself does not appear to be noteworthy to me as a unique work of art worthy of exploration for its own merits. I wouldn’t say to a friend, “Come with me to see this really cool sign!”
Hey for sure!
Here it’s the location 38.743769, -9.167363
I do understand your point, however, I have seen much more less noteworthy pokestops as unique things. Of course this not an excuse to use as comparison, because those have already been accepted, but I honestly think this is still a nice place to meet up, where I would definitely see myself saying to my friend “Let’s meet up in front of the sign of Laranjeiras”.
Plus, at least I think it’s a nice area to be that marks the transition to Laranjeiras (the neighborhood).
I don’t think I would have accepted this sign as presented, either. If you are submitting this because it is a welcome sign to a significant area, then I would try a new submission from that viewpoint. I will leave this to others to try to help since my world view is very limited.
Behind it you have a parking lot, but the sign is not referring to the parking lot, is referring to the neighborhood. Just a coincidence that there is a parking lot behind it.
Either way thank you for helping!
Have a great day
The problem with this sign, for which there is good online evidence that it is a sign marking the Laranjeiras neighbourhood, is that physically it is marking the car park. It isn’t at an entrance to the neighbourhood so it is very hard to receive it as an entrance sign.
Gonna be honest, the parking lot situation, if it weren’t for you guys I wouldn’t have noticed, because this is a public parking lot, and here in Lisbon basically every place is a parking lot since you have a lots of buildings (apartments) so you have a big concentration of population. This one has this specific format, but one street next to it, the whole hill is just parking lots (public ones aswell). Since this is not a private one, because it’s completely open and it’s not attached to anything (some could say to the tennis club to it, but it’s not intrissically connected to it, its just next to it like its next to a religious place) I never saw a problem with this.
Also the sign those mark the beginning of the neighborhood, because once you turn the corner and start seeing it you are in Laranjeiras basically. Either way now it’s up to Niantic to decided.
Thank you for your time!
I’m not saying it’s a bad nomination Just backing up what @cyndiepooh said so that you can understand the likely reason it got rejected (and maybe address this).
OK, but for what purpose would you meet there? Would you meet there just to get together and now you’re going off on your adventure? Or would you meet there because you want to enjoy the sign? The sign is large and easy to see, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good place to be social with your friend. If you’re not going to stay at the sign to be social at the sign, it doesn’t meet the socialize criterion.
Hmm honestly thats very subjective, because I don’t think there was ever one pokestop that I said “yes I’m going to stay exactly where it shows so I can socialize”, the maximum that that could have happened was a church and still. The intent of the game is to go from place to place so I have mostly only passed by them, but never thought lets meet up and stay in that place because of pokemon go. I definitely use some for reference, like let’s meet over there, but then after meeting I just keep going, I don’t stop there, I wanna catch more, spin more, lets call it “be the very best”
Now if you ask me if this is a place that you can socialize, for sure is, it’s and open space, where in the picture, you can even see 2 mini walls where you can seat and wait for someone, or just be there talking. You could say, “I could do that everywhere”, but everywhere is subjective because there is nothing identifying it. Now this place has the neighborhood name, so it has the touch of being a reference in the city, its open, you can stop and talk.
Not the first time that I have seen name of places being considered pokestops, honestly I have seen a lot, and even though they might not make you think about them like a piece of art or a church they can definitely work as reference and make you notice simple but curious things about the city.
Thank you for your comment tho
I think the key piece you’re missing is that Wayfarer is not about adding places to play Pokemon GO. I know that sounds crazy to you. Wayfarer is about mapping out wayspots. Wayspots have the criteria to be a great place to be social, exercise, or explore. Notice that definition has nothing to do with playing a mobile game. The games sit on top of the map. So when you say, " never thought lets meet up and stay in that place because of pokemon go." You’re right. A place to be social is anywhere designed to be a space for people to gather for a chat or a picnic or some kind of shared experience. That is completely independent of Pokemon GO or any other mobile game.
Hmm I get your point now, well explained. For sure it’s the game way of thinking that made me think that way.
Honestly I already appealed so if it gets rejected, oh well it got rejected, I don’t think that its unfair by itself to not be a meeting point and talking there, but of course its hard to measure what is the impact of a thing on people when isnt as objective as a place with an intent in its name, like a basketball court or a church.
I still don’t think that it’s not a great place to socialize and be there and relax, sometimes I see people there that seat on those benches, or for example I recall being with my uncles and chitchatting there but for sure is not as distinct as the examples I gave.
Thank you once again for your time!
Those are benches? In that case you do have a slim chance if your nomination focuses on those rather than the sign. Only you know whether they are genuinely used by people to meet up and hang out. Do you see people sitting there? This is the sort of situation where I think a supporting photo showing a group of people using the benches might help. But even so it’s still a long shot.
Hey! I do see people sometimes just seat there and be on the phone or talking.
But I just got the email from niantic and it got denied because in the first picture there is a car license that can be read so that was an automatic no.
They didn’t talk about the place not being distinct, so I will give it a shot with a new photo, and focusing more on the benches since people stay there and chill.
Let’s see if with the new adjustment it gets accepted, maybe
Just me opinion: i think you may struggle to get this through as “Social”.
In all the Street View images I don’t see 1 person using them to sit at.
It may be possible that you could sit at them but it does not look like that this is what the items where designed for or encourage it.
Remember that Reviewers are only able to Reject for 1 reason and the emails do not list every reason that reviewers gave. It could be that the majority of reviewers chose the easy “Licence Plate” reason but could use others when it is reviewed again.
Not trying to sound negative, just that you are ready if you get another rejection and the possible reason why.
I’ve seen these types of locations before, but from what I remember, they were described as small plazas where people could meet up, sit and have a chat or a quick break from the office and be outdoors for a bit. With the benches and tress, it does look like where you could do that. I also see that there are two markers that look to be commemorating people who may be significant to the area/community (politicians?) Maybe if you want to try resubmitting this location, you could research more about the people on the memorial plaques and see if this is, in fact, a memorial plaza like others I’ve seen?
