Appeal Rejected for “Private Property,” but It’s in a Public Space

Hi, Explorers.

I recently submitted a nomination that was rejected with the reason that it is located on private residential property. However, I want to clarify that the object in question is on the facade of a house, fully visible from the public street, and not within private property.

I understand that Wayspots cannot be located inside private residences, but in this case, the nomination is in a publicly visible and accessible area. I would like to know if there is any way to have this decision reconsidered or if there is something I can do to ensure its acceptance in a new nomination.

I’m attaching supporting images and would appreciate any guidance on how to proceed.

Thank you!


Welcome to the forum!

As you can see in the clarification, Niantic considers “on the facade” to be SFPRP.

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It is on apartment blocks, which are houses next to each other. They are not single-family residential properties or a farm. On this street, the apartment blocks are next to each other, and more houses can clearly be seen in the background, with cars parked on the street.

Hello and welcome @ludosstark
Can you provide the co-ordinates please so we can have a proper look as it is hard to tell from that screenshot.

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This is the spot
38,96832° N, 0,19388° O

Just in case there’s an issue with how the provided location translates (O can mean East in some languages and West in others), here’s the GPS coordinates: 38.968320,-0.193880

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Thanks for saving me checking :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
@ludosstark


The building that has the plaque appears to be a single family private residential property. There is a single entrance labelled number 13 which looks as though it will go straight into that 1 property. There is no evidence that the door leads to multiple apartments.

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Single-family detached home: This is a standalone house that does not share any walls with other homes. It usually comes with its own land, which may include a yard, patio, or garage. It offers more privacy and less noise from neighbors.
• Townhouse (or terraced house in the UK): This type of home shares at least one wall with another house, forming a row of attached homes. Townhouses typically have less private outdoor space and may have restrictions on exterior modifications. However, they are often more affordable than detached homes and may be part of communities with shared amenities.

In short, a single-family detached home is completely independent, while a townhouse is part of a connected row of homes.

Houses within a terrace are still single family private residential property if they are indeed home to a single family.

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@hankwolfman is quite correct.
There is nothing in the information on wayferer about the home to be detached.
Terraces, and semidetached houses are still single homes, and not eligible.
Apartment blocks have shared areas that are suitable, outside walls are a shared structure, an entrance lobby is a shared space.

Since you appear to be agreeing that this is a single family home then it is clear that this is not an eligible wayspot.

Happy to discuss other possible submissions.

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  • La ubicación es una propiedad residencial privada (incluso si es histórica), tierras de cultivo, un colegio preescolar o una escuela (preescolar, educación primaria o secundaria), una guardería/centro de cuidado infantil, un centro de rehabilitación o un refugio.
    La ubicación es la calle pública no es propiedad privada

Hi,
Wayfarer have defined the walls to be part of the private property. It does not matter that it is facing the public street it is on the private property and is therefore part of the private property, so not allowed.

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Pues así hay mil en mi pueblo muchísimos de los wayspot son fachadas de viviendas unifamiliares pero el wayspot está en en la vía pública. La especificación del criterio no está bien escrita al menos en español.

It could well be that there are many wrongly accepted. Being on a single family private residence is grounds for removal.
Thanks for the feedback about how it reads in Spanish - something to consider.

Hay muchas ciudades en España que están compuestas de casas unifamiliares una legada al otra son comunidades de adosados y no hay alturas. Es como si fuera un bloque de viviendas pero en casa no se deberías de echarle un vistazo bien a la norma. Entiendo que una casa unifamiliar única que está vallada sea un mal ejemplo pero fachadas de casas que son historia de un pueblo deberían de ser aceptadas dado que no infringes nada al acercarte a ellas ya que dan a la vía pública no están cercadas ni valladas es una calle normal.

Similarly in Japan, there are tenement houses with shared walls between neighbors. Sometimes the entire tenement house is owned and leased by a single individual or corporation, and sometimes the land and building are owned separately for each residential block. I disagree with your opinion. If the property is owned by separate residential parcels and only one parcel is demolished, the adjacent interior wall that is exposed by the demolition can be refurbished to an exterior wall. Therefore, these are tenement house are SFPRPs. Niantic has not clarified why it has established various rejection criteria. Niantic does not give a reason for its various rejection criteria, perhaps because doing so would start a discussion of cases that do not fall under that reason, which would cause confusion and make it impossible to regulate. You give the reason that it is accessible from the outside, but we cannot override that because NianticTintino, the Administer of the Nianticwayfarer team, has clearly stated Niantic’s opinion.

Pero esque si es accesible desde el exterior esa no es la razón que me han dado para rechazarlo

Han dicho que es una granja o una propiedad privada pero la calle es pública y donde está el cuadro también es público

Stated more simply, there exists no shared or public exterior walls in these tenement houses. All exterior walls are occupied by their residents, whether owned or rented.

The exterior walls of the SFPRP are clearly marked as ineligible by the Administer. There is no argument.

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Sorry about but most of the graffiti all over the world are at private properties exterior walls… just accessible because are were the pedestrians walk, this artistic elements, including what we have at the picture, have been shown to the public, are not in private areas. Most of those elements al protected by the government as a public patrimony. There are thousands of pokeparadas in private walls graffiti.

I assume you are talking about commisioned mural.because grafitti is techically ineligible