I don’t believe I’ve ever seen another one of these signs, which were made at some point in the late 18th/early 19th century.
I just feel if an Niantic Appeal judgement is going to be made that an object is mass produced and common it should be based on the fact the person making that judgement knows that its mass produced and common. If I’m saying its very rare and unusual, and someone else has never seen one before, its seems bizarre to make an incorrect judgement my information is not true just based on vibes.
(FWIW I can’t resubmit as I don’t live near here and I subbed it while hiking)
Title: Historic Warning Sign
Description: Orignal cast iron warning sign on approach to canal bridge.
Supporting: Submitted under exploration. Lovely historic and unique feature in this remote rural location. Warning sign placed onto bridge approach on road, which has since closed and is only a footpath now. Distinct historic feature from bridge itself. On public footpath.
Rejection reason: The submission lacks uniqueness or historical and cultural meaning (Was not originally listed in rejection)
Appeal Notes: No rejection reason given. This is a beautiful and unique piece of history, incredibly rare to see such an old sign still in its original location. Most similar signs have been destroyed, lost or are in museums. This is a fantastic object to draw attention to in the Wayfarer database linking explorers to the local history of the area. Furthermore this is in a green field/very rural location, I believe this would be an excellent candidate in the middle of a city, but in a remote countryside location it is all the more visually, culturally and historically unique and interesting.
Niantic Note: Thanks for the appeal, Explorer! The nomination in question does not meet the Wayfarer criteria as it is a signboard which is a generic and mass-produced object.
How is this historic? What is the context? If something is old, it doesn’t automatically become historic. Also, which eligibility criteria does it meet?
As a waypoint submission, I like it. Provided the title, location, description and supporting didn’t ask for a rejection, I’d accepted without hesitation.
@Mystogan5097 it was explicitly submitted under Exploration. I agree with this, because when walking around spaces, coming across a sign like this (which are not common) does bring you back to older times and does make you stop and think about how a space was used, how it has changed over time and how different things mattered to people then.
I have several accepted wayspots in the moors which fit exploration in exactly the same way - showing how historic things mattered in the past and how the use of the landscape has since changed.
The appeal text is, I suspect, a template, with the appeal reviewer just selecting a reason for rejecting from a handful of choices and then entering a short label - quick judgement and simple response. It can come across quite insulting when you get a unique [something] described as a mass-produced [abcd]
It’s a shame this was rejected. If there’s any chance of getting back there, sub it several times (putting the alts on hold), which is what I did with an old bridge that I really wanted in Ingress to plug a hole in the drone network, after it was rejected the first time.
Opinions can differ on this one (as for a lot of things). I personally like the old things that we simply don’t make anymore (or don’t know how to) that contain embedded history.
Was it rejected by auto-bot Emily in the first place?
If so it is a frustrating experience.
Ok I think 200 years = 1825 is a bit of a stretch since it talks about motor cars I think it early 1900s rather than 1800s.
That said it is in good condition and it is unusual. So it is worth submitting but not a slam dunk. It probably still is a functional reminder of the weight limit. So I would take the same approach as the old cast iron fingerposts which have a function but are also of historic interest.
Your description and title could do with some work as you haven’t teased out how it is relevant today. It marks the bridge and acts as an anchor on this point of the walk along the canals.
Your description should explain why it is more than a standard road sign.
But since you are unlikely to resubmit it I wont go into more detail. Its off the beaten track for me so I wont be submitting it. It would be nice to see someone try.
It’s probably about 100 years old, as elijustrying say’s it is probably still a functional warning sign although there may also be a more modern one. With a good description I’d be tempted to vote for it.
Don’t think it needs to be the last 1 to be eligible. Rare, in its originaly location, still readable and off the beaten track would definately accept under Exploration.
I can’t see the original description, but perhaps that needs to be more accurate too. Looking around, this might be described as a “Diamond Bridge Weight Restriction Sign” from the early 20th century. At the very bottom the name of the canal company should be mentioned which can be added to the description.
I’m not 100% sure how I would title it to make it interesting, some creativity might get it past the ML.
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