It is not meant to be a comprehensive list, but it does show examples. I do not see any of those explanations of criteria that would include a collection of private living spaces.
This is so discouraging. @NianticTintino does this help convince you that a clarification on these signs is needed for the Criteria Clarification Collection section?
My city has several roads that share right away with bikes and are marked with a generic sign to warn cyclists (legit signage to be approved). The routes are published online for all cyclists to use as trail markers. Removing them goes against the spirit of Wayfinder.
I do not see any examples that show the park sign is eligible just because it is a park sign. I see examples the park as a whole is eligible but we all know you can not submit natural areas, you must have a sign identifying them, just like a neighborhood has a sign suggesting gathering, socialization and exercise is possible in that location.
You definitely can!
Years ago, natural features were not eligble. They are eligible now, although they can be hard to get accepted. They need a focus and need to be something that definitely meets criteria (social, exercise or exploration).
Example of an accepted wayspot (no signage, just the boulders):
The neighbourhood sign does not do this. It says “this is the entrance to a neighbourhood is called [ABC]”.
Show an approved empty field in a city park without a sign. Those will not be approved and that is what I was referring to.
“Residential neighborhoods, if evidence supports it, may also contain non-private land that could be an eligible location for a wayspot.”
I am only referring to neighborhood signs on public spaces. It does not say those are not allowed.
I have seen several posts on this forum from people who have had unmarked entrances to green spaces accepted. Not every entrance to every green space is eligible - each one has to stand on its own merits.
Correct. If they are not on SFPRP, then they are not excluded on the basis of being not accessible.
To be eligible, a wayspot must meet criteria. It must also exist, be correctly located, be accessible and not be on schools or private property.
It is not possible for any criteria clarification to list everything that is not allowed.
I led us down a path of natural spaces and I apologize for that. This is specifically about neighborhood/community/apartment signs. If in a public space they are no different than a park sign.
There is a lot of advice being given …
however it would be helpful if the discussion stayed focused on the specific topic of estate or apartment signs.
To repeat drawing comparisons with other signs is not relevant.
Any further posts trying to involve other objects in this way will be considered off-topic.
To summarise As a useful outcome of the off-topics points you have had clarification of two misconceptions
It is possible to make a case for a natural feature
It is possible to make a case for a maintained park space that has no signage.
It is always about making an individual case.
We posted at the same time if you read up.
I led us down a path of natural spaces and I apologize for that. This is specifically about neighborhood/community/apartment signs. If in a public space they are no different than a park sign.
A sign is only eligible for what it represents, or if it is valid on its own merits as an interesting sign.
A sign for a park represents the park. A sign for a church represents the church. A sign for a neighbourhood represents the neighbourhood . These are all different things. Focus on the neighbourhood signs.
I am placing this topic in slow-mode
A sign for a park represents a place you could gather. socialize, exercise or not.
A sign for a church suggest you can gather and socialize or not as you contiplate your relationship with your god.
A sign for a neighborhood represents a place you could gather. socialize, exercise or not. Just like the park sign.
Okay this is what we are getting to. What encourages folks to gather in a neighborhood? A park is made for people to recreate there. A neighborhood is made for folks to live there. Amenities within a neighborhood may be a place to gather, but just a collection of homes is not.
Please remember that being a place you can socialise at, exercise at or explore is not sufficient, because that is almost everything everywhere.
You miss the point of what is done in and around the home including any shared (public) space. Those activities qualify the sign locating the overall neighborhood. In the same way that the park sign is eligible for the activates within the park.