Hello, my dilemma is that a lot of caffes that have no particular distinct features and info tables that are just wooden boxes with glass windows have been poping up in my feed. Also are wooden signs eligeble? Mine get rejected, yet I see alot that are/were approved. Some photos included, i have no photo of an info sign atm.
Under the criteria i would say that they fall under generic businesses (caffes) or under non distinct objects.
Wooden welcome signs are a different story, they are not mass prodused, are distinct, are a value to the comunity (they mostly are a sigh of the comunity being there) and if they have flowers someone is definitely taking care of it.
When you are making a nomination for a cafe, be sure to provide proof that they are more than just a generic business. Here is that part of the clarification:
Your example photo is not a great photo. It is very dark and kind of blurry. When I take a photo of a place like this, I try to center the photo on the name sign. If you get low and aim your camera up, you can avoid getting reflections in the glass. Donât use this from Street View, but something like this
You can take your photos before you ever start your nomination until you get a good one. A little tweaking, like straightening and cropping, is allowed if needed.
I do very much like your wooden sign photo. But these are usually eligible for what they represent, rather than for being a sign. Google Lens couldnât translate it for me, so I am not sure what the sign is for.
Just wondering, since this is in Review Support, are you getting these to review, or have you submitted these? It appears that you are getting them in review, but have tried submitting in the past and have had some rejected.
As for cafes, they can be non-generic businesses. They can be great places to socialize at, meet up with someone. They may even make some food and drinks that others donât, and be worth exploring.
I see for this cafe that the nominator noted that itâs popular with teens and young adults, as well as being open for over 10 years. That to me says it isnât generic, and it isnât a chain either, so it meets the socialize criteria for me. Only issue is the photo, which is somewhat blurry and low qualify, so I would reject the nomination for that. I donât know what the title/description is, so I canât remark on how I would vote on those.
As for what you refer to as an info table, this looks like a directional sign to other places, mostly small villages, which is what came up in the search results when I did a Google Lens search (no need to translate). In the US, we really donât have signs like these, as most are mass produced and quite indistinct. I canât say if these are are similar in Slovenia, but itâs possible. I would also question safe pedestrian access, just from looking at it on Street View:
I did find another similar ones on Google Maps at 46.38836190301199, 15.511470461288095 and 46.38300060146421, 15.522203029049574. Hereâs what it looks like on Street View:
As you said, i have submitted similar wayspots, and they have been rejected, some i appealed. The ones i posted came up on my reviews feed and that was the reason for the post.
The wooden signs are common in EU, specially in the countryside. On that note safe pedestrian acces does not mean it has to have a curbside.
Information boards may be important to the community, as they may have info about upcoming events and be a place for businesses to post contact info, so they usually fall under the explore criteria.
Again, itâs up to the submitter to make their case as to why the POI meets criteria in all info provided. All the supporting info really says is that itâs an info board in Tupali Äe Preddvor, Slovenia, and thatâs info we should already know from the title/description/location. Hard to fully judge this one, since the full nomination wasnât provided.
The directional signs are not on trails, though. They are next to streets and roads, and are just pointing you to other parts of the area. Yes, people may walk along the roads, but they arenât offical trails.
Please keep in mind that not all of us here are from urban areas; I grew up in a rural area where some places donât have sidewalks, but we may have POIs in areas without them and they are still safe for pedestrians to access.
In addition to the above, I see nominations for coffee places that are drive-thru only. Thatâs not a place to explore or socialize - people donât even get out of their car.
No place to socialize, possible, unless there is an outdoor seating area.
Explore, not so clear cut, as it may be a locally owned shop, maybe itâs known for its unique drinks/food that are served elsewhere. Maybe they are known for being charitable.
For example, thereâs a drive-thru only coffee shop in my hometown. We donât have any other drive-thru coffee shops. They also feature baked goods from local small businesses, many of which bake their goods out of their homes.
It all depends on the context the submitter provided, and, if needed, can be found online while reviewing.
I agree for the most part⊠but this isnt true 100% of the time⊠theres spne pretty cool places to visit and explore that are iconic⊠like The Donut Hole. But of course its up to tje submitter to convey the importance of the nomination.
This was immensely helpful thanks. And i was not referring to you when i said city folk, but reviewers in general. This will help me get better rating than good and hopefully get better approval of the wayspots that i submit.
My problem with the drive thru coffee shops that I have seen is the lack of pedestrian access. They are usually fairly compact buildings surrounded by the driveway path for cars to enter, order, pay, and receive their orders.
I do see what you are saying that there can be an explore component. But Iâm not sure where to place the pin for a place like this.
Adding that I havenât finished my own coffee this morning so if I missed the direction of your comment I apologize.
We had a similar conversation, recently, about take-out only dining and it was established that they can be eligible, but yes - there still must be pedestrian access, and Iâm thinking more like a customer walk-up window than employee only backdoor (sometimes in the way of thy drive thru).
Thereâs no âcatch allâ answer and weâre making generalizations but nobody has stated that they all lack accessibility or are explicitly unsafe.
A walk-up counter isnât a great place to socialize.
If it doesnât even have seating, I donât think it can qualify.
Maybe if it has art you can walk up to - but thatâs explore, not socialize.
But the cafe/shop/restaurant may be a great place to explore if they are known for some specialties that others donât have, if they have won some awards, etc.
Again, lots of grey areas, so there canât be a single blanket answer to drive-thru only shops.
For all that helped an the matter of wooden signs, it is with great sadness that i come backbtelling that they do not count in some countries. As seen across Germany and Austria they are many of them accepted as wayspots that translate to bein poi ingame.
As for the reason, ill post pics why it got rejected. Its getting ridiculousy frustrating to have double standards from the wayfarer team, to where poi are accepted and where not.
