City Vs Rural - Double Standards

Don’t get me started on “Leafy green electrical box” :rofl:

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Hope you dont mine I used the neighborhood sign to pull up a satellite view of the area and noticed theres is a pretty decent size dock nearby on a lake front. Is that for public use? Or at least for your neighborhood community’s use? I can understand wanting something nearby. If that dock is still there and satellite isnt out of date, and its not for a single family private property that would make a MUCH better nomination. Lake front can be great places to explore, get some exercise and even socialize.
Edit: also worth noting if one of the nearby buildings is a community building or the neighborhood has a community bulding somewhere that also would be a great nomination in addition to the dock.

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Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to look.

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It just made me remember my today’s featured wayspot. I saw it and knew the place, and I am pretty sure it is not safe or permanent. I just wanted more specific and objective rules about the criteria.


For Utility Boxes and similar, I tend to lean towards the decoration being not permanent unless there’s some citation that it’s part of a scheme. A picture painted on one of these without permission is just vandalism otherwise. The same goes for any mural really - is it actually a mural, or eloborate graffiti?

Alas some places are just a wayspot desert, suburbs especially.

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Just to add to the many great points made above, the full rejection reason reads “Temporary/Seasonal or not distinct” and it’s best to consider this reason in its entirety. When reviewers use this rejection reason on a piece of infrastructure, that doesn’t mean they think it is made out of paper and will be blown away by the wind tomorrow and if you are able to show it’s permanent it will be overturned. Often that means they meant to signal this is just not very distinct from the many such objects in the city. It’s an either/or.

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And, yes, in my perspective usually “rural” is defined differently.

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in almost 100% of the cases that it’s used in a wayfarer/pokemon go context the person actually means suburban and when someone actually is rural they’ll talk about farms instead.

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Agree, rural is typically low population with farming being a big industry in the area. I grew up in a rural town where ag is the main business; I think there is about 4200 people in my hometown, and 15000 in the county.

I currently live in an urban area with about 200k people in it, but both counties that are a part of this area have rural areas with quite a bit of farming and ag. I can go northwest to a rural town with about 325 residents, and if I go east, I can be in a town with a little over 1300 residents.

I submit Wayspots in both urban and rural areas, and I don’t do anything different when it comes to the criteria. Last time I was in my hometown, I think I added about 7-8 new Wayspots. I was in another rural town outside my city yesterday, and one of the parks there has no Wayspots! I have to get back and nominate the playground, baseball field, etc!

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@CanisGideon

It really just gets down to how others in your voting pool voted at the time.

If signs like yours are usually getting accepted in your area try another nomination.

Change the wording up etc. It looks like a large, hand crafted timber frame housing a permanent and very distinctive welcome sign to me. Mention safe pedestrian access in the support info – provided that is true. I would name it “An artisan made Pelican View Welcome” or some such.

Suggest you have a play around with it and keep nominating until it gets accepted. I have had them take 3 or more submissions.

A big place name sign like that dominates your approach and makes you wonder what’s beyond. Makes you curious to have a look and to me is a good place to explore. “Let’s go and have a look at that Pelican View lake place” — for me it would be a far more memorable excursion than visiting a scribbled on box of wires.

City v Rural – I have lived both and there are differences in the way inhabitants view and value things. Obviously I don’t know — but have another look around the neighbourhood – maybe there are some lake viewing spots, jetty, boat ramps, little parks or reserves, playgrounds, fishing spots, walkways, footbridges etc etc – lots of stuff to look for.

There are a lot of borderline decisions in these processes. The guidelines can be ambiguous and very open to interpretation. The company celebrates by showcasing wayspots and to me — surely these are their examples of good wayspots. Many disagree with me on this. Most agree that the whole thing can be frustrating.

Good luck with your game and nominations.

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sounds like you’re advocating for a voting ring. one of those just got shut down with consequences for those involved so probably not a great idea. review based on criteria and nothing else.

Spamming ineligible nominations is not allowed and considered abuse by Niantic.

This is not true. Niantic does not curate the Featured Wayspots, which is very frustrating. The ML accepted ones do not show up here at all.

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And they’ve stated these are not examples of criteria as well.

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Ineligible nominations are like PRP or blocking emergency access. If a Wayfarer were to nominate such a thing, they ought to be told how and why it is not acceptable. If they persist in resubmitting without correcting for the ineligible aspect it is a clear-cut case of abuse.

If the Wayfarer believes the facts on the ground are different, they may try to rework their nomination before submitting it again, but there’s no law requiring rework for form’s sake.

If you have already documented how your nomination is not in violation of rejection criteria and you think it looks good enough you are always allowed to have another go.

There’s always a certain element of chance involved, anyway.

No, those are not the only things that define an ineligible nomination.

Yes, improving on an eligible nomination is allowed an encouraged.

That element of chance should not be exploited to squeeze ineligible nominations through.

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Jeepers — not sure where that comes from.

Don’t know what a voting ring is and am definitely not proposing one. I am playing / living on another continent to start with. @CanisGideon asked why his nomination would be rejected when other similar ones have been – and are – accepted all the time. Would the answer not be because it was voted down?

Nomination Support is the topic.

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Good advice but not sure how it is related to my comment.

I am suggesting that the nominator work on improving the submission.

I have read other posters relate how they have resubmitted 6 nor 7 times and eventually get it accepted.

I am presuming the proposed wayspot is ineligible in your opinion – and that, of course, is fine. The thing is though — that there are established wayspots just like it all over the place. It is possible, therefore, that you are in minority on this. Nothing wrong with that!

Wayspots, just like it, are common everywhere I have played. Furthermore, they keep being added.

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I voted down over a dozen of them today.

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Live wayspots are not an indocator of whats eligible, a statement Niantic has made. Niantic has also shared their opinion on neighborhood signs deeming them not eligible, this of course is not available anymore, but that doesnt change the fact on how they viewed them in regards to criteria.

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