Clarification Needed on AI & Wayfaring Agreements

Recently, several of my nominations from early this year were quickly resolved, seemingly by AI, as suggested by an email confirmation from the team. While I’m thrilled about the expedited process, I am concerned about whether all participants who voted on these nominations are receiving their due agreements. I’m worried that Wayfarers might be missing out on agreements and upgrades. I need clarification on this issue. Thank you.

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Same! I was so excited to see a wave of emails with “Congratulations, our team has decided to accept your Wayspot nomination” come through yesterday and today. But some of those had been in community voting, and I wonder if the reviewers will still get their agreements on those.

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@NianticTintino @NianticThibs can you help with this please

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upgrades are jus about useless now. The nominations you apply them to jus sit in queue, not even pulled into voting.

People should be happy they don’t have to review incredibly easy/ auto approve-able nominations. But instead they’re not happy about NOT having to do work a machine can do…

The weird thing is, EmiLy seems to be taking a large load off of reviewers, but everything seems to be going even slower than ever (if EmiLy is not involved).

People not motivated to review as much, esp if they’re the type who can’t get their easy approvals…

“Does that count as an agreement for those of us who already wasted our time reviewing it?” - If a decision is made for a particular nomination by Niantic, it does not contribute towards Agreements.

Looking forward to clarification from Niantic on ML pulled nominations, specially.

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Getting another wave of “our team” decisions that I assume were due to the ML model - yay! But some of those had been in community voting. I hope the reviewers who had already seen this had a chance at earning an agreement.

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Feel like this is worth a reply from the team.

Saw more reports today of nominations in community voting being resolved today with the confirmation email reading “our team” I thought it was worth reviving this post as we never got an answer. We are happy to see ML Model clearing the backlog but reviewers shouldn’t be short changed as it could affect their reviewer rating as well as their ability to obtain rewards in game such as medals. I don’t wanna assume that’s what happening but some information from the team would be helpful to dispel that concern

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You’re putting a lot of faith in the information you might get.

I’m sure that upgrades taking days to resolve in the US is “working as expected” and not just a bug that didn’t get properly investigated. After all, the team said so!

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I have seen reports locally of nominations being upgraded and taking more than a week to resolve, which is needless to say an order of latitude longer than they normally take. I will
continue to advocate for the issues that we see to be resolved

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I hate that ‘working as intended’ tag!

It seems like the Niantic admins are prohibited from talking about how things work ‘under the hood’. It’s a complicated system and there’s a lot that can (and does) go wrong.

If they flip a switch to disable Upgrades during a week-long event Explorers will notice and report the change. An admin will collect the reports and say ‘working as intended’, but won’t admit they took a deliberate action. They’ll then make some other changes, then turn Upgrades back on, but now they’ve cloned or damaged some of the records, so they’ve got Upgraded versions resolving after the non-Upgraded ones.

The Upgrades switch ‘worked as expected’, but none of the knock-on effects were anticipated. Those are real bugs, but all we can do is report symptoms, and they are not allowed to discuss the inner workings, and around and around we go.

‘We meant to do that!’ but didn’t anticipate or protect against anything else.

Why couldn’t they warn us not to apply Upgrades during the event, and refund any that became impacted, and then inform us when they are usable again?

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Hi @NianticThibs,

I was wondering (and hopeful) if you could share an update on this question.

A few days ago, I had a nomination in community voting that received an. “our team” (Niantic or ML) decision.

Do these grant previous community reviewers agreements for their work?

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I should have tried to get this answer when I was in NYC. I’m sure I wouldn’t have gotten an answer, but the reaction would’ve told me something I think. But I was on the verge in heat stroke at the time :joy:

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