The list of which wayspots are Pokestops - is data. An indicator for each Wayspot, telling what it was in the Niantic version of PokemonGo - is data.
Ingress loads Wayspots that are minimum 20m apart, and therefore uses a lot more wayspots than PokemonGo. I used a larger number as an example suggestion for PoGo, because people have said that having Pokestops really close to each other, makes the game impossible to play.
Niantic never gave a map with cell overlays because they knew it would cause abuse. So it depends how Scopely sees their data and the priority it puts on location accuracy. One option is: they could start people without the cell lines, and add the cell lines only after a nominator has proven they are good submitters.
Allowing people to freely edit any waypoint worldwide with no restrictions would be abused immediately though. I do agree that we need a way to submit edits for lightship only locations that arenāt visible in go, but unlimited edit range on a map is not the answer.
Do we have any word on an IITC replacement for PoGo with the split coming closer? Looking in that other thread, a lot of people have been saying they rely on tools like that, myself included.
Itās not that simple. IITC was built on top of the standard Ingress Intel map. The main reason it had tools made for wayfarer is because that map automatically updates to show new waypoints, remove old ones, and makes it relatively easy to grab the exact coordinates of any given waypoint (so long as itās featured in ingress of course.)
With the intel map set to no longer sync with wayfarer nominations soon, it leaves us with no way to automatically see where waypoints are. And thatās not something that can just be āwritten,ā as I recall itās specifically against nianticās TOS to use any sort of bots or other automated means to get that info. We either have to manually find it ourselves, which is outrageously inefficient, or wait around for niantic/scopely to give us a new map that gives us easy access to that information.
If they do set one up and itās missing some features that the community wants, thatās when itād be possible to start writing code.
For years we asked Niantic to provide the features IITC provides to be built into stock intel.
Over time, something like two or three got added, but in less useful ways.
Also, IITC has a rocky past with the company. This was over a decade ago but, as I understand it, they were going to ban every player they found using it. Until they figured out how to detect it, and discovered how many players, especially leaders within the player communities, used it. Now, as long as they donāt abuse the servers (intentionally or through poorly written code), it is tolerated. But, as a feature set, it has never been blessed (to the best of my knowledgeā¦ I was out of the game for five years).
Asking for something more basic, that the community could build upon, is more likely to happen than asking for IITC.
Well, the plot may be getting lost here. If anyone is asking in this forum for the functions of IITC, it would be the functions related to mapping and wayfarer. I donāt have the full history to know if there are Ingress gameplay functions for IITC that youāre including in your discussion of the history. None of that is relevant for this conversation since in the future Ingress will be owned by a different company than the people who will own Wayfarer.
For simplicity, I prefer PogoMap , has everything I need to help with my wayfaring apart from live data. The guy running it also seems open to add extra features when requested / if possible.
My ideal would be that Niantic / Scopely made a deal with them to supply live data.
Not likely this would happen and I know that itās not to everyones taste so itās just my opinion
Everything in IITC is about mapping, so it is not clear what that means.
And nothing in base IITC is wayfarer aware. There are some IITC plugins that offer features like āoh, hey, thatās a new portal!ā or, a fairly new one āIf I nominate a new portal here, would show up in Ingress?ā
It is not clear what people are asking for when they say they want IITC.
Not all the functions in IITC are related to Wayfarer which is all that we are talking about on this forum. Any historical objections that a former company had to IITC arenāt relevant because 1) we will be asking for map features from Scopely, not Niantic Spatial and 2) tons of the features of IITC were based on Ingress gameplay which Wayfarer does not care about.
This is the stuff that i as a Wayfinder never use or even bother to understand. I can see why the Ingress team might not like these features. But they are irrelevant to Wayfarer.
I certainly donāt want to squash ideas and I love talking about what we want, but there have been other threads to discuss mapping tools including and not limited to IITC, which was built by fans as a gaming companion for Ingress with later plug-ins developed by Wayfarer (nee OPR) enthusiasts.
Iām happy for an update about the sync. With the upcoming changes, I suppose Iām ready and looking forward to the full separation to be over at this point.
On that screen cap, about the only two plugins that might be of interest to wayfarers would probably be moved portals (which is actually built on top of a bug in Ingress) and the Overlay random stuff (which, really, is just another drawtools type of plugin).
The other plugins are all Ingress game play related.
