Community Guidelines and Clarification

I didn’t start out with a hostile tone, that’s what I’m saying. I started out thinking my submission was removed because someone was looking at an outdated satellite map, I thought it would be a simple fix and the POI would be restored.

I then found out that not only would it not be restored, all of the other Disc Golf POIs I submitted would also be removed and then I read through several threads worth of people celebrating other people’s Disc Golf submissions being removed, being jovial about it, and I got frustrated, then someone started reporting my posts here on this forum and I got more frustrated, and then people started telling me to calm down and speak in a more polite tone and that I should be grateful for the experience.

It was like the perfect storm of making someone angrier and angrier and I still don’t understand the lack of understanding for people who aren’t long time members of this forum. I wanted to have a conversation about why Disc Golf Holes are totally banned and argue over the reasoning and logic behind the ban, but that never happened, instead I was shut down.

Edit: In regards to the slow mode you enabled as I was typing this up, that’s another one of these compounding frustration elements. I wish that I could just have a conversation on here without feeling like I’m being crowd controlled.

That is a reaction to the post not directed at you.

The reactions are used to say that you Like / Agree with the comment or at least some of it. Some will select a specific reaction for each some will have a favourite. I tend to stick with the “Thumbs Up”

There’s a thumbs up symbol, and then there’s a laughing emoji which is what they used. The different symbols mean different things.

Disc golf holes are not eligible for two reasons.

  1. Golf courses are represented by a single wayspot for the entire course. All others are duplicates. There is a very specific clarification from Niantic stating this at Golf & Disc Golf Courses

  2. The single wayspot for the golf course should be at a safe location where it doesn’t interfere with play and is not at the basket (which you didn’t do but plenty of people do), so generally one disc golf hole is not the best place, but a starting board works better.

“The single wayspot for the golf course should be at a safe location where it doesn’t interfere with play and is not at the basket (which you didn’t do but plenty of people do)”

Why do other people’s submissions decide the fate of mine, though? Not only did I not place them on the baskets, I made sure they were all on, in front, or to the side of tee-off base. Right next to the walking path and overall trail at the Levee, so nothing I submitted interferred with play or even possibly could have.

This is sort of me repeating myself, but the hard rule of no Disc Golf POIs period, (which is what has been enforced with my submissions since all accepted POIs were reported and removed.) doesn’t align with the two stated reasons for why they are banned (interference of play and one single POI to represent the whole course)

These boards giving the disc golf hole number, showing a map of each hole, and giving basic tips is the closest thing to a starting board along the course, and there is one next to each of the tee-off bases which I submitted:

This is what matters: “Golf courses are represented by a single wayspot for the entire course.”

That other people put wayspots at the baskets has no impact here and has not made your wayspots ineligible. I only mentioned this for context.

Because of slow mode I couldn’t make another post responding to your comment about one submission representing the whole course sooner, but there is no sigboard representing the whole course, only signboards representing the individual holes 1-18, which is why I submitted them as distinct submissions, it seemed intuitive (I have never submitted Disc Golf POIs or even seen a Disc Golf Course IRL before this one at the Levee a few weeks ago.)

It wouldn’t have made sense to me to submit something just called “The Levee Disc Golf Course” when it stretched for so long, past several fitness stations, which are considered unique POIs on their own, and along a hiking and nature trail. I would have had to choose an arbitrary point along the course for such a submission.

I did make a Route in Go which went along it after the Wayspots were accepted, it was this long (2 kilometers) and represented the whole course:

From looking at the maps, I agree that this is a long thin course that stretches a long way. Unfortunately, it is still a single golf course and can only be represented by a single wayspot.

I live next to a golf course that is 1.35km end-to-end, but it is still represented by a single wayspot at the start. If every hole could be a wayspot, I would probably have engineered a gym within reach of where I live.

With the lack of a marker, the first tee would be the most appropriate. I think that got removed leaving the course with no wayspot. if that is the case, I think that single wayspot should be resubmitted.

I agree that at least in this case there is clarity.

But the rule is not very consistent. We do allow individual trailmarkers, and not just the trailhead. But as said, the clarification is very clear, so in this case, we may disagree, but it is what it is.

I’ve never tried submitting anything at a Regular Golf Course before, are people allowed to freely walk on those typically? One of the reasons I was so shocked that the POIs at the Levee were being removed is because of how public and well traveled the trail is, hundreds of people with dogs or bikes or little kids walk up and down it every day and it’s always open.

As for resubmitting the first hole, I am probably going to hold off on that. I am still submitting the Mile Markers, Picnic Areas, and other unquestionably eligible POIs along the trail. It just feels kind of futile to me to resubmit something which I already got accepted once, someone will probably just report it again even if it is explicitly an “anchor” for the whole Disc Golf Course.

It’s only one wayspot, so if you want to skip it (which is understandable), it won’t make much difference.

Some golf courses can be walked on, but not all. It helps that the one next to me is owned by the council, but you obviously have to take care not to interfere with play. It gets a lot of people walking dogs (after 5pm)! For all golf courses, the start is always safely accessible, even on club courses (to people who are allowed to be there)

Good luck with your other submissions :slight_smile:

For what it is worth, I hope staff will have a second look at the removal of the first tee, as that one should stay.