Constructive Case Against Niantic’s Current Memorial Bench Criteria

The current Niantic Wayfarer guideline — which states that memorial benches are only eligible if the honoree is a “notable figure,” and that memorials for friends or family are generally ineligible unless “evidence of importance to the community” is provided — can unintentionally carry discriminatory and demeaning implications for the people being remembered.

  1. It Implies That Only “Notable” Lives Are Worth Recognition

Requiring notability sets an extremely narrow standard that excludes the vast majority of meaningful community members. Many people make quiet but deeply impactful contributions — long-term volunteers, caregivers, local workers, mentors, and neighbors — whose value cannot be captured through public records or fame.
This policy indirectly suggests that a person must achieve a certain level of public visibility for their memorial to be considered meaningful enough, which can feel dismissive to the families who dedicated the bench and to the communities that cherished that individual.

  1. It Invalidates the Cultural Practice of Local Memorialization

Across many cultures and communities, dedicating a bench, tree, or plaque is a collective act of remembrance. These memorials are placed in public spaces specifically to invite reflection, connection, and community identity.
By labeling these installations as “mass-produced” or insignificant unless tied to public notability, the criteria overlooks the societal and emotional purpose behind these memorials and reduces them to generic objects rather than meaningful cultural markers.

  1. It Places an Unfair Burden on Grieving Families or Friends

Asking nominators to “prove” someone’s importance to the community is not only difficult but also emotionally insensitive.
Most families honoring a loved one with a plaque did not do so with the expectation of collecting press articles or formal documentation about that person’s contributions.
The requirement can force nominators into a position where they must justify the worth of a loved one’s life to strangers — an experience that can feel belittling or even traumatic.

  1. It Doesn’t Consider Site Value, Only Person-Based Value

Wayfarer criteria encourage reviewers to examine:
• exploration value
• community gathering points
• markers that encourage reflection
A memorial bench already fulfills these criteria by providing:
• a designated resting or gathering place
• a point of interest tied to the setting
• a landmark that supports exploration of a public space
However, the current rule shifts the focus away from location-based value — which is the core of Wayfarer — and applies a standard based solely on personal fame, which is not aligned with how other candidate types are evaluated.

  1. It Creates Inconsistency Across Other Eligible Objects

Wayfarer allows:
• art made by unknown artists
• historical markers for small events
• informational signs on everyday topics
These are accepted based on the value of the object or location, not the fame of the person connected to it.
Applying a stricter standard only to memorials creates an inconsistent and arguably inequitable classification.

Conclusion

The guideline may have been created to prevent saturation of identical plaques, but its wording and application unintentionally devalue the people and families commemorated through these installations.
A more inclusive approach would focus on the memorial’s placement, cultural meaning, and role within the public space, rather than requiring nominators to validate the worthiness or notability of the person being honored.

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Hello and Welcome @jocidee

Nice to see a new topic for discussion.

It’s not obvious where to start new discussions sometimes, and the place you picked is not actually relevant.

So this can be viewed and responded to by a wide range of wayfinders I shall move it to the General Discussion area. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Your point about it placing a burden on grieving families is kind of explaining why these memorials are typically only accepted for people who are notable within the whole area - because if this is a memorial mainly for a grieving family then it isn’t really suitable to be a PoI at that point is it - really these kinds of things should be submitted by someone unrelated who thought wow that person had an interesting life, more people should know about their contributions to the community- that’s what makes it a good place to explore. That way it’s not intruding on someone’s relatively private grief

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This is a general discussion about principles tgat has been raised and not a specific example.

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Feel free to delete my post.

Glad to hear you agree😎

Of course it would be unwise to encourage someone to go against a criteria clarification.

My understanding is that the OP would like to stick to the rules but is frustrated by them and wants a discussion to challenge this principle. So we can stick to that.

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I don’t agree at all. Resubmitting is not against criteria at all. Even at failed appeals, the apeal staff will at times encourage resubmission.

I had difficulty reading this. Did you use an AI chat bot to write? It’s ok if you did, just wondering.

I’m all for approving (and of course submitting with full approval) memorial benches that meet this context - submitted for the value of the location, view, and role in the public space.

Is this not true, even in context of the bench plaques? Donor recognition benches aren’t placed out of the goodness of the local community to commemorate everyone - the ones placed by a group recognize those notable and most of the rest are paid for by families.

It’s the submitter who can provide context to prove they are culturally significant.

Rather, maybe creating spaces that ignore families in order for a phone game paces unfair burden on those grieving.

Again, a submitter has the opportunity to provide site value and person value.

I don’t see this as inconsistent :thinking: nothing is always eligible or ineligible.

:clap::clap::clap:

Oh :smiling_face_with_tear:

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I see your point, but a public memorial bench isn’t a private object of grief — it’s intentionally placed in a shared space for anyone to reflect on and appreciate. Notability isn’t the only measure of community impact, and requiring fame to justify a loved one’s memory is an unnecessarily narrow standard. Many people who shaped their neighborhoods were never in the news, yet their memorials help define the character and history of the area.

Saying only unrelated people should nominate these benches assumes families can’t accurately represent the person’s community value, which simply isn’t true. The purpose of Wayfarer is to highlight meaningful places, and a well-placed memorial can serve that role regardless of whether the honoree was widely known.

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What I mean is that the family aren’t responsible for the nomination- you said it places a burden on families to nominate these? My point was that someone else should also want to!

Otherwise, I do see them as more of a private place of reflection that the wider public wouldn’t pay much attention to - sad though it is to lose someone close to us, most people in the area won’t have known them, and do not care :yellow_heart:

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I’m curious if you have examples and personal experience with these types of nominations. Would you be willing to share some?

Here’s a recent one I submitted. The description recognized and paid honor to the community member it recognized. The Support text focused on the value of the bench itself.

Supporting example

Had I simply said “Joan Doe Bench” and “Great place to play!” I would have expected it to be rejected.

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I too suspect that the impetus of this thread was due to a disagreeable outcome for one of OP’s submissions.

I have nominated exactly one memorial bench. It was for someone who was a teacher, and a volunteer in their local community.

Given this, it was easy to find articles about this person to provide context to reviewers about why they were a significant person in the local community. Nobody would have heard of this person outside of the area, so the responsibility of proving they were a significant person/figure locally was on me to do the research, find the articles and check my sources, and then to present that to the Wayfarer reviewers so they had the context as many would be reviewing from way way outside the area where this bench is.

I did have to re-nominate it, as this was in the days before Appeals were a thing, but it got approved on the second attempt (same information I believe).

The person that the bench is memorialising doesn’t have to be a super well known figure, but you, as the submitter, have to be able to tell me of the things they did which means that their memorial bench is a great place for exploration to those in the area.

“Oh yeah, I know where Mr. Teacher’s bench is, I remember them doing **thing in the community** when I was younger.”

That kind of thing. Rambled a little, but hope that helps.

Edit: Accidentally made a link that goes nowhere when trying to explain. Just ignore that

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I want to elaborate on this because I meant to bring it up in my first post. Often times people complain that it is unfair to smaller communities, but in fact those communities can benefit more because anyone can have a more meaningful impact on a small local community than in a populous metro.

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Yes, but you can find Summarize button at the bottom of the page, makes it easier to read:

The debate centers on balancing inclusivity, cultural respect, and practical review standards — with many agreeing that memorials should reflect community value, not just fame.

Which kind of makes sense, if applied consistently)

I know I’m replying to myself but a further thought I had.

I (like many of you, unfortunately) have relatives who have passed away.

Some of those relatives and the further families of them have had memorial benches placed at locations they enjoyed visiting or were places they frequented.

Does that mean that (fake names and relation used) Aunt Caroline should have a Wayspot at her bench over in Darkin-Smith National Park? No. I think that would be weird.

Maybe Aunt Caroline did some nice things when she was around but I can’t find any articles about it, and nobody else really knew who she was locally besides the staff in the paper shop.

So whilst her bench may be important to me and other family, it’s not a point of interest for anyone else and thus doesn’t belong on the Wayfarer map

Again, maybe someone else can elaborate on this one too.

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I hear you, but I don’t think it’s that simple. A bench being paid for by a family doesn’t mean the person wasn’t important to the community — it just means the family handled the cost. Tons of people who make a real difference locally never get formally recognized by an organization.

And honestly, the value of the bench isn’t about who paid for it anyway. It’s about the spot itself and how it adds to the space. That’s what Wayfarer is supposed to look at, not whether a group or a family funded it.

I too have had to resubmit a memorial bench (with the same information). This seems to be an experience many have had before and can relate to. :slightly_smiling_face:

Those kinds of benches are different and scenic viewpoints or benches serving as an anchor for a park or other green space can definitely be submitted :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

For example neither of these 2 are memorials, or particularly special benches, but the views are lovely and made them acceptable

Like PkmnTrainerJ, I have one memorial bench nomination to my name. I don’t find most notable enough to nominate, but I found one that

  1. served as an anchor to a church’s memorial garden
  2. was a memorial to someone whose charitable works in town were manifold and significant (director of [town] United Way; co-chairperson of [town] Community chest; president of the Newcomers Club of [town].)

Either of those would be a worthwhile reason to nominate the bench, but I probably wouldn’t have done it just for reason #2.

Part of what defines my perspective is that I kinda hate sending/receiving gifts from memorial benches or plaques for random people. There’s a TON of those in parks in my area, and I don’t care that this person was a beloved mother and friend to all animals. I prefer sending things with more significance.

(I may also be angry that a memorial lamppost in one cell is obscuring the waypoint for the memorial garden dedicated to those from our town who fell in WWI that was the last project of our local VFW post before they closed, but that’s a whole other thing.)

That said, I also have pride in a nomination that’s a bench that isn’t a memorial or an amazing viewpoint. It’s the anchor for a signless park:

Like, if your memorial bench anchors a great view or is the best landmark in a park? That’s more significant than the person whose name is on the plaque.

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