Dangerous gym removal rejected

I reported the wayspot/gym called “Dzia slang en vogel”
In Apeldoorn, the Netherlands

(52.2121877, 5.9664918)

The wayspot used to be at a wallpainting on a big parkinglot, but it was demolished years ago, what is left now is an overgrown construction area that’s really dangerous to access. And getting worse. Theres fences around most parts too. The property is not to be entered.

Theres holes and rubble and plants everywhere, it’s not safe to access this gym and can’t be properly reached. This has been the case for ages and there is no reconstruction plans, this is the permanent situation as of now.

Thanks for the appeal, @SuperSolidSquid! We took another look at the Wayspot in question and decided that it does not meet our criteria for removal at this time.

I took more pictures today, it’s very irresponsible to leave this up, it’s fenced off and there’s rusty sharp copper wiring everywhere in the field. I highly doubt this meets the criteria

Hey @SuperSolidSquid

The artwork is still clearly there and not everbody need to have access to this wayspot.

Niantic/Scopely also encourages to follow laws and stay safe. If a location seems too dangerous to enter then it is recommened to not enter it. But this will not lead to the wayspots removal, therefore I agree with the decision being made here.

Nice artwork though​:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I had to go over a wooden fence to take those pictures, how does that at all follow the guidelines? The artwork is there but not accessible in a safe way, it can’t be reached properly. Yes it’s a beautiful piece of art (it’s also partly sprayed over as you can see)

But I would not request its removal if according to the guidelines this was a suitable spot.

I highly doubt niantic would want people to fight in a gym that requires them to risk their safety by glinting a construction lot., 80% of it is closed off with metal fences, the rest with wooden fences.

When this spot got approved this was a fully accessible parking lot. Which has now been demolished for ages.

The situation is only getting worse. Theres more rubble piling up. It’s irresponsible.

Anyone who can see the situation in real life would agree with this.

Gym is not needed to be accessible to every person. Wayspot can appear in restricted area like gated community, paid entrance, or gated business. If you cant access it safely, please find other gym.

As long the wayspot is still there, it will be hard to get it removed. I suggest you to move on

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It’s not accessible by anyone unless you climb a fence….. it’s not in a private area it’s a construction zone closed to all…..

I guess I’ll dive into the removal guidelines again and more thoroughly investigate.

Still very surprised why it’s hard to get a gym removed that’s unsafe for everyone.

Doesn’t look unsafe, just a little untidy. Examples of unsafe would be in the middle of a road, or surrounded by water.

Lack of access is not part of the criteria either - the only access consideration is pedestrian access ie could someone walk up to it and stand there - which they can, and single family private residential property (ie someone’s house), which this is not.

It doesn’t meet removal criteria. The owners and anyone working on site has access. If you do not, then play elsewhere.

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There is no owner and there is no workers, it’s an abandoned construction lot owned by the government. It used to be a town parking lot open to all. Which is now closed off. Lol

There is no active work.

I guess it’s hard to convey the situation in text if you don’t know what it’s like in real life.

I’ll try to make a more clear detailed post to prevent any confusion or back and forth. I was unfamiliar with the process when I posted. If it gets rejected then I’ll indeed accept and move on :slight_smile:

I’ll look through the acceptance and rejection guidelines again. And provide clear details

Since it got fence, meaning who put the fence is the owner. The owner can still access the wayspot safely. You dont need to access wayspot, if you need to climb the fence to get near it. You can find other gym in other place

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Well no. The fence is placed by the government lol. To keep EVERYONE out…. There is no plot owner that can get to it… it’s an abandoned construction lot….

I am extremely surprised that Niantic did not remove something in a construction zone. Is there any evidence from an official site you can give that this is a construction zone? Even if it is an abandoned one?

In my opinion, this should be removed under “Safety” but “My Opinion” and “Niantic’s Processes” don’t always match.

We can assume that this location isn’t going to stay Abandoned forever so I assume there will be occasions when someone needs access to inspect etc, I assume there may be some utilities (gas / electric / water) that runs under here so their employees may need access.

I am not saying that this is why it shouldn’t be removed, more why Niantic may decide not to remove.

Good Luck.

Wel to me it seems its under restricted access. Government staff can still access it. Its just general public cant get in. Alternately the mural seems behind building. Building owner/staff also should be able to reach it. Since the wayspot still there, i dont think its should be removed.

Its not dangerous if you didnt tresspass. Its fenced for that reason. If you cant access it, you can find other gym. Not all gym need to be accessible to everyone.

I see that it used to be prking lot. Although street view show its overgrown by grass.