Great , this one check out. But well its one thing to take note. Before i see your map, i was sceptical. Map wise, keister from website match with ur street view. But its too small to be seen clearly from street view.
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Found it in 2023 streeview
You can mention to reviewer to see 2023 streetview instead of blurry 2024 one
Cant see the frog from 2022 street view. But the white board showing qr code is visible
Sorry, but I seem to still be a little lost on what you are referring to. I am assuming you are referencing the Niantic labs contribution page. This post that I have provided and we are currently talking under was made because the appeal process failed. That was one of my 2 use appeals in 20 days. Where would I be able to appeal the appeal, and if I can’t appeal the appeal and do have to resubmit a second appeal how would I provide a video of me pulling on the frog?
My apology. I had missed / forgotten that part of your original post. Going back to my previous suggestion, if you are able to get a video clip of the nomination, it may help. If not able to, I hope the Niantic Staff can look into your appeal request.
The first appeal request was denied, so I’m left with little recourse. Where would I be able to post the video clip, would it be here right now in this forum? Because I can go walk to the frog and be back in 30 minutes.
At the moment, I would wait to see what the Niantic Staff will say on your appeal of the appeal. If they insist on a video evidence, it may be worth going out to get one done.
So I can appeal the appeal? I’m so confused, sorry you have to deal with the bombardment of questions. I haven’t appealed the appeal, and I can’t figure out how to on the contribution page.
Since you ald went through appeal process and got rejected, we wait for niantic team to read this. But in the mean time , you can get video and put it here before niantic said anything. I think that would be better.
Yep. You can appeal the appeal. I’ve done it a few times, but only when I believed the appeal decision was wrong.
Hi @Botany99
One week ago we’d a similar situation here on the forum:
Ok, I read through that. So the problem was solved after a 360 degree video was sent. Would you like for me to go and take a video of its existence?
Its in your best interest to provide as much evidence as possible before niantic come here and read the verdict.
I saw the 16 frogs facebook page. Looks good but i saw case where one of the frog got stolen lol. Perhaps thats why the lilipad was missing.
In case it is needed I took a video preemptively as extra evidence that it exists:
Ohh so thats where the qr code is. So 2022 street view definitely have it.
Good luck with the appeal. Hopefully you have enough for it to get approved.
I now get to make this point twice in one day. Do not expect that your reviewers will do more work in their review than you did in the nomination. Sure, you don’t have to give links to support your nomination in the supporting information but if you want to reduce the possibility of a frustrating rejection, I would suggest doing so.
That there is a QR code nearby, IMO, would not necessarily be evidence that the tiny frog near it is a landmark. We only have your word that it gives additional information. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn’t.
I would include the link for the website the QR code gives when scanned and submit again. It may still struggle to get approved but (IMO) that will make a much better case for it getting accepted.
Just to clarify a point or two as I don’t want there to be a wrong impression.
There is no formal appeal of a an appeal process .
Occasionally people post here complaining about a poor appeal outcome.
It gives a chance for fellow wayfinders to give their views as to what might be the problem or if something has gone very wrong.
Often the advice is around doing a better nomination and resubmitting. This can be a better photos, better explanations for reviewers.
If it passes all good, if it doesn’t then the submitter is in a much stronger place for an appeal.
Sometimes the Wayfarer Team will see a post here and decide that it warrants overturning.
There is no guarantee as it’s not a process.
This was already discussed and going over the topic again seems a bit counter productive to what I am trying to accomplish but I will clarify to you and to those who I think misunderstood what I was trying to say. When I said “I provided plenty of info for someone to do their own research” this was an attempt to say that at a certain point there is no further info that a submitter can feasibly provide, and if someone wants to confirm the validity they have to do detective work (look at google street view, etc.) Whether there was or wasn’t a link is/was not the issue. I was trying to say that the amount of info I provided I think should have been sufficient, full stop, for a reviewer, and that’s my opinion. Your opinion could differ on where the threshold is and that’s ok. I think we can all agree that eventually the onus is on the reviewer if the info provided is fully satisfactory to make a decision.
Then I further went on and said that nowhere does Niantic Wayfarer say to leave links to different websites in order to solidify the accuracy of a post. If the good people of this forum would like to not constantly have to remind new forum users that links are allowed. I think you should advocate for Niantic to include this in Wayfarer criteria instead of harping on naive users who are none the wiser.
This is a fantastic clarification! Thank you very much for the info. Since the wayfarer team may not even see this post I’m assuming I should say that this was solved and retry through a second appeal? Or should I leave this post up for a day or 2 in the hopes they stumble upon it?
Typically the post is just left as is.
You can decide what you want to do in a couple of days.
Update: after submitting the same POI with a slightly different description with the added link to the frog art website as suggested by @jojenreed64 @hankwolfman and @P1dg3ySlayer it was denied in voting. I have submitted yet another appeal to Niantic to get it approved. Hopefully this time it will get approved since there is a link to the website imbedded in the appeal notes. Is it my fault for still not providing enough information to the reviewers, or is the onus officially on the reviewer for not doing the bare minimum of using their eye balls?
