Permanent survey markers (PSMs)
They can include:
*are substantial marks used by surveyors to identify property boundaries
*Concrete blocks buried with a brass plaque
*Mini marks in the kerb
*These marks are important for various surveying projects
I am passionate about Survey Markers or Geodetic Markers I believe they have a place in the real world space. I collect them and often explore to find them. I have them as my icons on all things digital.
Here is my favourite:
If you require assistance in relation to Geodetic Markers this is the place to begin a conversation.
Traxi25
Cross-posting the relevant āCriteria challengeā response from Tintino:
My opinions on survey markers below:
The vast majority of survey markers which I see in review (NSW State Survey Marks) do not have an interesting or historical story. They are required by NSW government to be no more than 500 metres apart, making them highly mass produced. I would not consider them to meet any of the eligibility criteria. I would consider these not distinct, which is one of the rejection criteria. Furthermore, they are often in areas with dubious pedestrian access (e.g. on the curb or the gutter of the road) or encroach on private residential property (e.g. in someoneās driveway). While it is not possible to categorically deem a type of nomination ineligible, and there may be a very special NSW Survey Mark that I am not aware of, I have not seen any during my reviewing which I would consider to meet the Wayfarer criteria.
There are some survey markers (or similar features) which are significant and do have individual eligibility.
Title: Point Zero
Description: Point Zero was adopted in 1925 as the origin of all WA road measurements.
Location: -31.955898,115.860553
Title: Bunbury Townsite Peg No 1
Description: This is the original site of Survey Peg No 1 for the Bunbury Townsite, placed by surveyor H. M. Ommaney in 1841. The site was commemorated with a plaque in 1988 as part of the Bicentennial celebrations.
Location: -33.327202,115.647818
Title: Cameron Corner
Description: The marker placed at the point where the borders of the three states of NSW, OLD, and SA meet. During summer, walking around the maker results in passing through three different timezones.
Location: -28.999095,140.999251
Iāve tried a couple times to submit a Geodetic marker in Florida, with no success. Imagine my surprise to log into Wayfarer and see one listed as a Featured Wayspot!
Has there been a change in thinking as to these markers? Or is it just a matter of local reviewer interpretation?
That looks to be quite similar to the absolute coal in NSW that was making it through the reviewing process. I would reject, but Iām not in the reviewing pool. The closest we have in the UK is the benchmarks which people occasionally try to get through review but arenāt interesting. Outside of a very select minority, you wouldnāt take someone to show them this.
However, if this would actually feature on peopleās ālet me take you round and show you interesting thingsā tours, itās viable.
Would going to the location of that survey marker provide a different experience than a survey marker in another location? There needs to be an experience gained by going there. What is so special about being right in the middle of the front of the building? What are the reasons for this?
The survey markers you showed are far from being easily recognizable POIs and are not unique.
Furthermore, these are not limited to specific countries but are found in large numbers in the United States, Japan, and many other countries around the world, with most being mechanically installed at intervals of several hundred meters to several kilometers.
99% of these should undoubtedly be rejected.
However, abusers try to get such things approved by making clever applications.
Also, due to the mismatch between the rejection criteria and the removal criteria, such pokestops are frequently shown on the game screen, so Wayfinders are under pressure to approve them in order to avoid lowering their review scores if they reject them.
This problem reminds me that public information boards in Japan have essentially the same problem.
In fact, Japanese public information boards are only about 100 meters apart, and even if the content posted is exactly the same in the same city, it is still approved.
I think that these types of Wayspots should be extracted using machine learning based on the criteria indicated by Wayfarer managers and removed after confirmation by staff.
This is because people think that they should approve what they can see.
In order to prevent this kind of pressure from being placed on wayfinders, it is clear that these low-quality wayspots should be removed by Wayfarer management itself.
However, I believe you should start a separate topic for this opinion. This topic is to discuss survey markers. It turns from a discussion of survey markers to a discussion of Japanese community bulletin boards.
Iām sorry for going off topic.
I just want to say that having ununique wayspots such as survey markers and public information boards in the field will make our game less interesting in the future.
In the short term, it will be easier to progress in the game because you can get a lot of items, but I think you, I, and everyone here want to enjoy playing PoGo for a long time.
The secret to PoGo being played by more people than any other Pokemon game, and for longer periods of time, is undoubtedly because it is a location game.
If those wayspots, which are the essence of the game, become boring, PoGo will just become another Pokemon game with a lot of bugs.
I wrote this because I donāt want PoGo to become like that.
Does the building have historical presence in the community? Is the marker unique? Take a look at the previouse posts about Geodetic Markers, you need to evaluate each marker for its value to the criteria.
Do you know why it is in the corner of a building? I have only ever seen them in the ground.
