Hi everyone! This is my first created topic.
I’ve been trying to get a new pokestop of a decorative street lamp, but it’s getting rejected by the AI. In my appeal, I provided a lot of information and proof for why I think it should be accepted, but the rejection answer was simply “It’s on private property”. Meanwhile, in my message, I DID put information on why it is NOT on private property. What did I do wrong? What can I do? Thanks in advance. Here is the submission data (it’s in spanish):
Farola Decorativa Antigua
Una farola decorativa antigua del barrio Colinas de Peralta Ramos
La farola no esta en propiedad privada, ya que esta fuera del limite catastral. Es unica en el barrio y da un toque antiguo muy bonito.
And here is the appeal message + appeal rejection message (again in spanish):
Notas de la apelación
This street lamp is unique in the zone, not a typical streetlight. To compare, just behind it but far away there is a typical streetlight, with an inverted L shape. This one is decorative. It is also not “mass produced”, and it’s the only one present in the whole neighbourhood. I invite you to look around with Maps to verify that there are no similar lamps at all (also that the lamp is there for quite a while now, so it’s not temporary). Finally, it’s not on private property. It may look like it is because of the path, although that’s still far away from the house, but it also is outside the cadastral register. You can verify that, in my city, all properties that are near intersections have a cut in the corner that goes toward that intersection. Here is the official cadastral map link: CARTO ARBA It’s a bit tedious, but it’s easy to use. You can also overlap the Google Satellite by going to CAPAS - CAPA BASE - GOOGLE SATELLITE. I took the liberty of taking a screenshot and adding some references, just to avoid you that annoyance. Here I share it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SwtCCEn6sn1vqo9TofkurI9Qkr3cNPie/view?usp=sharing To be fair I think it enhances the view and makes it an interesting place to visit, and it fulfills every criteria to be eligible as a wayspot.
Nota de Niantic
Thanks for the appeal, Wayfinder! The nomination is on the property of a private residence which makes it ineligible. Hence, we are unable to reverse the decision. We recommend you review the Wayspot rejection criteria before submitting any more Wayspot contributions: Rejection Criteria — Wayfarer Help Center
Los revisores han dado estos motivos para no aceptar esta propuesta:
La propuesta se encuentra en una propiedad privada que no es de acceso público
IMO: You are going to find this difficult to get through.
You state “all properties that are near intersections have a cut in the corner that goes toward that intersection.” but 1 of the houses opposite is fenced much close to the side walk.
Even if not massed produced it does look like an ornamental object belonging to the house.
There is also the problem that all waypoints are meant to be dealt with as you being able to stand at the point of interest, not that it can be reached from further afield. If this was to become a Gym and a group met there for a Raid this would definitely affect the resident.
Even if this were an eligible location, and if this were a unique light, I still don’t see how this would would meet criteria. It is not something that I would want to take a friend to check out, for example.
You ARE able to get to it, and hug it if you want. It’s in the middle of the public road. Those photos were taken from a mere couple meters from the lamp.
If we ignore the location, how are you making this meet one of the main 3 criteria…
Exercise: No
Socialise: No
You are left with…
Explore: If you can explain why people would go out of their way to visit this you have a chance but it’s extremely unlikely for what is a garden ornament…
The lamp is in someone’s front yard. It can also be touched from the public pavement. The latter is not what matters.
It also isn’t eligible under Social, Exercise or Explore criteria, unless you can proof it is worth exploring and that people come here to visit that specific lamp.
I wouldn’t spend the time doing that, as it is in someone’s front yard.
The google streetview posted by @cyndiepooh shows very clearly that this is not on the public street. It’s impossible to legitimately argue that it is once you see the streetview images.
When I do a Google Lens search on your main photo, I get many hits on similar objects. It simply isn’t a work of art on its own to meet exploration criteria that way, it does not define a space to be social, and it does not promote exercise. It does not meet any of the eligibility requirements, and it does meet the rejection criteria of being on Single Family Private Residential Property. We are not going to be able to help you get this candidate accepted.
This image is very disingenuous. Combined with the (demonstrably untrue) statement that all properties have a cut in the corner for pedestrians, you are trying to make it seem as though the space to the right is public property.
From the google streetview, it is obvious that the path to the near right leads to the property’s front door and is not a cut through.
This suggests very strongly to me that you know this is on single-family private residential property and is not eligible.
There are 4 meters of grassed pedestrian path and it’s not good for excercise? I literally walk everyday around the neighbourhood and it’s better than walking on gravel or cement.
I do understand it is not for Socialization, and that the Explore is maybe a bit of a stretch (although it is unique and interesting to see, it’s not the greatest sculpture ever), but I thought it may even fit. Not every piece of art can be El David
To me it fits on Excercise and Exploration
You’re saying the cadastral records are lying? There’s the literal proof of what I’m saying. You can literally go to the public website to check I’m not lying. In the appeal there’s the info on that.
That photo is there to proof the placement of the lamp and how I can get near it. There is a house nearby, yes, and you can even see it on Street View, it would be dumb to try to “hide it”.
But thanks for the free offense
Well obviously the POI is not the path. But a sign in a park isn’t interesting by itself but the park is a good place to excercise. It’s the same logic
We love to help with eligible nominations. I see things marked with the park icon on Google Maps. I don’t quite understand what they are, but you might check those out. I also see pastry and ice cream shops, which can be great places to explore in your community as well as great places to be social. Do you need more suggestions for eligible points of interest?
