Invalid wayspots: Shared with school property

[nexushoratio]

Three items. Two are appeals, and the third was one I missed the first time around and discovered during research (understand if not accepted).

• Wayspot Title: Menlo Church
• Location (lat/lon): 37.448837,-122.187142

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• Wayspot Title: Be Still, And Know That I Am God
• Location (lat/lon): 37.449097,-122.186968

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• Wayspot Title: Scouts Honor
• Location (lat/lon): 37.449826,-122.188073

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• City: Menlo Park, CA
• Country: US
• Screenshot of the Rejection Email (do not include your personal information):

• Additional Information (if any):

This is another case of “wayspots are on the same property as a school”. In this case, “Kirk House Preschool”.

Kirk House Preschool | Menlo Park, CA | Christian Preschool

Note that the logo states: “A Ministry of Menlo Church”

Since it is still unclear on if “same building” or “same property” is sufficient (both approaches have been successfully used in the past), and I am on team “same property” until officially documented otherwise, I am appealing.

From the assessors website:
Geocortex Viewer for HTML5 (slow to load). Do an APN search for 071084190

And from a Google MyMaps with the wayspots on them:
Menlo Park Presbyterian Church - Google My Maps (private/incognito usable)

[DTrain2002]

Might want to check out these restoration appeals:

Wayspot Restoration Appeal--Lincoln Glen Church, San Jose, CA

When submitting a Wayspot Appeal, make sure to include as much of the following information as possible: Wayspot Title: Lincoln Glen Church Location (lat/lon):37.27527733325202, -121.89717734503995 City: San Jose Country:USA Screenshot of the Rejection Email (do not include your personal information): Not applicable. Additional Information (if any): The waystop is located pretty much exactly on the sign for Lincoln Glen Church, with easy access from the sidewalk. There are no hazards and dozen…

Waystop Restoration Appeal--West Hills Community Church, San Jose, CA, USA

When submitting a Wayspot Appeal, make sure to include as much of the following information as possible: Wayspot Title: West Hills Community Church Location (lat/lon): 37°16’30.5"N 121°53’49.5"W City: San Jose Country: USA Screenshot of the Rejection Email (do not include your personal information): N/A Additional Information (if any): This Wayspot was located at the church sign, with the actual church building immediately behind it. The sign itself is by a sidewalk used by dozens, if not hund…

[elijustrying]

I wasn’t aware that there were “teams” within wayfarer.

It is about assessing each case and the context of the different elements. So this case needs to be assessed on its own merits.
The school is on the plot of land own by the church and is part of the church’s ministry - another of the ways it supports its beliefs, along with outreach work, seniors etc

However as shown on your final image it is distinct separate entity. It is in its own building and includes defined space for play. Separate entrance.
The school describes that carer/child have come to a gate to be met with staff to let them in and reverse at pickup. This entrance is clearly unique to that place and not other parts of that land area. It is clearly a very defined and controlled space.
The description of life at the school is all about being in that building no mention of them wandering over the carpark to view scouts honour or into the church. Or other associated areas.

[nstarzu]

To colorize the last image provided by OP

It shows the 3 POIs are not in the blue box, the separate building of the church.

This is the church main building where 2 POIs are at

They are the main entrance of the church, not at or near the entrance of the other buildings.

I believe Niantic decision in the e-mail March 3, 2025 are both valid, correct and should be unchanged.

[NianticLC]

Thanks for the appeal, @nexushoratio. After reviewing the additional evidence provided, we’ve decided to retire the Wayspots in question.

Please note: The changes will not reflect in Ingress. Ingress Prime is no longer associated with Wayfarer. To make changes in Ingress, please reach out to Ingress support through Ingress in-game support or using the webform link provided in Niantic Spatial Support: https://nianticspatial.helpshift.com/hc/en/8-recon/faq/798-reporting-a-wayspot

[cyndiepooh]

Please explain how you came to these decisions.