Is it not okay?

Proposta di Wayspot per Villa San Gaetano - Placca

Genzano di Roma RM

Non accettate

2025-12-30

Descrizione

Storica villa signorile caratterizzata da una facciata in stile classico e una targa in marmo originale incisa all’ingresso. La struttura rappresenta un punto di riferimento architettonico locale, oggi adibita a residenza comunitaria.

Posizione

Via Achille Grandi, 24, 00045 Genzano di Roma RM, Italia

Informazioni supplementari

L’oggetto della proposta è la targa storica in pietra situata all’ingresso di Villa San Gaetano. Si specifica che la struttura non è una residenza privata monofamiliare (PRP), bensì una “Residenza comunitaria”, rendendola un luogo di pubblica utilità e socialità. L’accesso pedonale è sicuro e garantito dal marciapiede e dalla pavimentazione in acciottolato antistante l’ingresso.

Can you explain why this plaque is significant? Do you have a link showing that this is “a local architectural landmark”? What do you mean by “Community Residence”?

If this is just an old building that has been turned into apartments, then I don’t think it would meet criteria.

Just a note, why the tilted supporting photo? It looks like you don’t care about your nomination when you take them like this. That leaves a bad impression on reviewers if the submission gets to community review.

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Their facebook page says it’s a retirement home/ assisted living facility.

To OP: if you’re nominating for the architecture I would take a picture of the building not the sign, since the sign is pretty unremarkable. I understand signfarer and getting past ML but I think it makes it a lot easier to convince reviewers you’re nominating something unique

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gentilissimo, semplicemente perché la foto l’ho scattata dal basso e l’ho zommata. Credo che lo zoom evidenzi le inclinazioni.. a me non è sembrata cosi tragica la foto. Da quello che ho capito è una residenza per anziani e ha un’utilità sociale. Ma io volevo candidare l’edificio poiché è storico oltre che bello

e che ho la percezione che i cartelli vengano accettati più facilmente rispetto agli edifici…
forse è una percezione erronea

I read many posts recently. Many advised to focus on the place, not the sign. Your photo shows a random, old house. It is your job to tell us what makes this a significat historical place. You did not do that. And based on a google search you will not be able to. If this was a historic building, you can bet your life on the fact that any person trying to let or sell that place will boldly mention that. Not one agent does that though.

It really depends in my experience. A sign can serve as a visual anchor for ML and the reviewers, but it isn’t always clear if you are nominating the sign or whatever the sign is a stand-in for. I’m personally not a fan of always submitting signs instead of the actual POI, but especially for unique art and architecture I much prefer the main photo to be of the POI. I will add the sign to the supporting images.

Here are some examples, one is still in voting but it’s to show that ML will not automatically reject anything that isn’t a sign



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I think we have mentioned this on 1 of your other posts…

There is a difference between Old and Historic.

For us in England we have an organisation called “Historic England” who maintain a database of Historic Buildings. These have strict laws on what you can do to them. Even things like replacing doors or windows need to get consent and must be “in keeping” with the property. Not doing this is a criminal offence.

Do you have anything similar to show the building is historic and not just old?

While it might be helpful I don’t think it needs to be registered anywhere. Simply from an aesthetic standpoint I feel like OP’s house would fit the unique architecture criterion

They do have this i.e.

Not as advanced as Historic England. But something to go by.

The house is not on the photos though. On those I see nothing worthy of exploration.

True, I googled it lol. I did make the point that OP should submit a picture of the house since it looks nice

At the moment we seem to have an house that matches the architecture of the local area with no Historical or cultural significance shown.

Being listed in a “historical registry” would change that.

“it looks nice” does not meet criteria.

Like many in Italy. There are many similar buildings. Needs a very good photo and a very convincing text. It is too far south in Italy to come to me for review and to worry about approving it.

To be honest though, with his many posts Pex988 makes me wanna go to his region. Looks like a nice place for tourists trying to avoid the hot spot of Rome, but still want to visit the area.

There is no hard and fast rule on this. Sometimes the sign will make a better presentation and sometimes the building will. In this case, the sign does not stand out, so the building very well may be the better focal point for the nomination. This sign just appears to be the street address number:

I still have not seen any evidence that this is an historic landmark.

I wish satellite view were clearer. Is there artwork on the property you could submit?

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There actually is a chapel and a cool fountain too btw.

I thought i was seeing this on satellite but wasn’t sure

I love Apple Maps

oh so much clearer!

Getting very off topic here but Apple Maps satellite imagery is much clearer than google’s (and much more up to date), plus Apple LookAround is available in many areas that street view isn’t available in so I wish they’d add it to Wayfarer.