Need some advice

Looking for advice on submitting a logo as pic for a local TTRPG club. I have their permission to use it but it is obviously posted on their website and socials. Don’t want it getting flagged as a Third-party. Any advice?

The club is well established and has been running for several years, they run an annual convention and have a large following. They think it would be great to have a wayspot as several of there members currently play some of the games associated with Niantic.

I could submit the building which I believe would stand a good chance of passing but the logo is something that would look really cool as a wayspot.

I have seen sports club logos and such but I haven’t tried submitting something like this before and was looking for some help either from someone who has done it before or even if there was a Ambo or Rep available for advice?

TIA

Surely the building have logo somewhere, if u take photo of it urself,there is no issue.

No, like a lots of clubs here they use community centres, the centre itself would probably pass but I would like to enter the club, but, because it is a community centre there is no signage of any sort allowed on the outside of the building. Apart from a sign for the community centre.

Inside on the notice board there would be plenty of stuff but I don’t want to enter a flyer on a notice board.

I have seen club logos before so trying to figure out how to submit it the correct way as it would be a lot more interesting as a wayspot and definitely something different.

Afaik, the club logo nd to be physical and permanent, i am not sure what club logos you have seen before but i think it needs to be tangible.

" Must be a permanent physical, tangible, and identifiable place or object, or object that placemarks an area"

Dont make existing wayspot as standard because it might be approved by AI auto accept by mistake

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I am familiar with the criteria, That is why I am asking for advice on if this is possible or not, the club is well established, plenty of supporting I can submit, from their website, socials etc and I can speak to the organisers so can get extra info if needed.

The club has been in place for many years now and has grown from strength to strength. It is their permanent location for 5 years.

I could take the lazy option of just submitting the comm centre but I believe the club itself is what pulls the people in and makes it social. If I can give them a nod by submitting the club as the wayspot That is what I would like to do.The clubs logo is cool and would definitely be a really interesting wayspot.

Title I can work with, even if I have to Put (club name) Home in (Community Centre) which is probably the way I would do it to have it as accurate of a title as I could. But if possible I would love to submit the club logo as that would also be most accurate for the club.

May not be doable but I’m trying to make make a unique wayspot that would differ from all the usual contenders.

That’s why I am hoping an ambo or Rep may be able to give me advice on it as I may even have to submit a different way.

As for the logos I have seen, The only way I can assume they happened is that the location was submitted (Like a sports field, sports hall etc,) they were passed and then the submitter submitted the logo for the club after they were approved.

The logos which I’ve seen (not many in fairness) were accurate for the clubs involved and the locations were spot on. As in it was their home ground or facility. But they didn’t have any signage that I could see.

I would need to go for a drive to get to one of them if I can think of where I stumbled across is. I was a truck driver so I passed a lot of spots all over the country.

Without the Club logo on a sign or Community Center itself I am not coming up with a way to nominate the logo.

The nomination needs to represent a distinct location. The main photo should accurately represent this item at this location.

My aim is to be able to find/recognize the wayspot without having to hone in on it using the game map to find it.

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Ya that’s the problem. One of the options is submit the club at the community centre with the title like I suggested above with the community centre photo. I believe that would be approved as the details are correct and accurate and I could back this up in supporting.

Then if and when it is approved submit the logo as the photo for the wayspot, the title would remain the same and the community centre is easily found on Google maps. I think even some of the Garmin devices should be able to find it.

The logo would be more accurate for the wayspot in that case because it is the club I would be submitting as the wayspot at the location (So comm centre photo would also be accurate) if you know what I mean. I don’t believe that would be classed as repurposing as The logo photo would be accurate for what is submitted in the title (The club) which I can provide plenty of supporting for but at the same time I am not going to risk it without solid advice.

I understand the tangible side of it. I would just like to make an accurate submission more interesting then a plain building that does fit criteria but is just a bit boring photo wise.

Obviously asking for the advice as I try to do high quality submissions with plenty of supporting and would rather ask and see if there is a way to do a thing correctly and make an interesting wayspot.

As I said, the community centre itself would probably pass as it fits criteria but I want to challenge myself and see if there is a way to do this correctly. There may not be, but if I don’t ask, I won’t know. I can send the materials, images, links etc to a rep if they think they might be able to help. That is not an issue.

It would be a lot easier if the local council allowed signage for the club on the outside of the building but apart from a plaque with the name of the comm centre that is all that’s currently allowed. :pensive_face:

It may be best to give the additional information to better understand the context.

For instance, which logo will you be submitting as a photo? Is it tangible or is it taken from the internet?

Rereading this, it seems to be implied it is from their website with permission. IMO it would still fall towards a third-party photo. There is also no practical way to verify the logo was used with permission without leaving your anonymity; where the submission should be kept anonymous in review.

I don’t see a method that allows for the logo from socials be accepted accurately within criteria.

No not from their website with permission, they can send me a copy of the logo directly but because it is a logo it has obviously been used on their website as socials etc. so would I presume come up immediately on a reverse search, so even given 1st hand to me it would still probably get flagged as third party even though it would not be.

As for the permission side I can get an email from the club stating their permission to use the logo for the purposes of a wayspot, but where I would need to send that to is also something I am not familiar with. I believe that side is doable though but I think I have to submit through a different route.

The photo needs to be of something physically present so people know where to find the object. The Community Center is the better option in this case.

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I would submit the community centre as the “easy option” probably.

However if the club decided to create a good quality sign that they put at the community centre then you could use this and submit the club instead/as well as. I think the logo would need to be physically displayed at the location to be a valid image. Its not quite the same example but I submitted a cafe at a community centre using an image of the building, but with a smaller fold out sign present for the cafe prominently in the image. The sign itself looked temporary as they would put it out during opening hours, hence my using the building as the backdrop.

To my mind, in a larger space, you could also consider submitting the community centre and a club that meets at that space as separate items. These likely wouldn’t end up with both showing on all game maps but in Go you might get a stop and a power spot this way. That’s assuming you get the separate signage

I echo all the advice above about not using a logo that has been emailed to you.

If the problem is that the club doesn’t have a dedicated space or anything visually recognizable about it, and meets in a shared space from time to time, then I don’t think it meets criteria sadly. I would consider nominating the community center and detailing the interesting activities that regularly happen in it in that nomination, like that the club would be an important part of explaining why the community center meets criteria.

If the club wants a wayspot with their logo, then they likely need to go the sponsored route.

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Yes that’s a shame, the meet every week for the past 5 years and it has a massive following, they have filled up several times and never have an issue replacing with new members, currently membership and attendance is over 100 per week and the convention that they run yearly over a 2 day period attracts thousands.

It’s just a shame that there is now way to highlight it.

Like it is one of the best social activities for all ages in our area. I would say it definitely fits criteria on the basis of most sports venues are only used when there is training or an actual match so pretty much the same as the club.

Not to worry, I will try include them in the title at least as it is accurate and I can back up with supporting without issue.

Just realised that since writing this that there is currently a powerspot for the club, looks like it was part of the import. Just a pity there is no way to attach the logo to it as it would look cool in any game.

Thanks for your feedback. I’ll have to go with the Community centre and hopefully they will eventually allow signage at some point that I can update.

As for sponsored route, I don’t think this would be an option as i don’t believe they would have the budget. The work on a simple pay as you go system and a yearly sub, both of which are very low cost and good value which is what makes it so accessible, they pool the money towards cost of venue and the rest goes towards the convention, then the money from the convention goes back to organising an outing for the members for free.

They have done cinema trips, activity parks etc as their outings.

Then the cycle begins again for the following year leading up to the next convention.

Organisers are volunteers with a love for the games and who wanted to make a space for younger people to meet in the town as there is a lack of spaces and low cost activities around here.

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Yes fingers crossed that they eventually get the sandwich board, it would make it a lot easier to highlight them…if I can get past the seasonal/temporary.

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Yeah I misremembered a little - I focussed on the temp sign in supporting on mine, main was the building frontage

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