I’m now sure I see how these signs are advertising for real estate.
This photo is an advertisement for real estate.
The neighborhood signs are more along the lines of a welcome to this city sign, but instead of a township it’s a small village, neighborhood, ward that has a proper name where some people call home. If it were an advertisement there would be a price point or the name of the construction company.
It shouldn’t hurt but ngl it does sting a little when people are referring to my neighborhood sign in question as uninteresting or an “advertisement”. Some of us see the sign and think ‘I’m home’
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All the sign does in my experience here is tell everyone how much people paid to live there. I have accepted some neighborhood signs with art or history that make them relevant. Convince me this sign is significant to your community in a way that meets criteria and I will accept it.
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That seems a bit crass to me. I think they do try to give a first impression to people but more in a way of trying to set the character of the neighborhood, giving it some personality.
That’s why I posted here. I’m not really sure where the bar is for the community of reviewers. What would convince you? Artistically? This sign has two types of stone work and brick work at the top. The sign is suspended and rounded on the bottom which is actually not very common in signs like these in my experience. The lettering looks like it’s lathed by a machine in a more cursive script, also not common. Artistry is entirely subjective.
History? As I’ve said before the location was previously a golf club. Apparently it was the oldest public golf club in NC when it was sold. Site of Charlotte, N.C.’s Oldest Public Golf Club Sold to Developer - Club + Resort Business. What is your bar for history for it to meet the criteria vs not?
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There you go. If you resubmit, write it up thinking about cyndiepooh who hates generic neighborhood signs in general, and lean in on how this is an important reuse of an historic property or supply artistic details. I can’t tell you what my “bar” is because every nomination is different. Convince the reviewers that it meets one of these:
- A great place for exploration
- A great place for exercise
- A great place to be social with others
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If I were you I would be talking to the local services about erecting an information board about the history of the area perhaps That would be worth going to and reading and learning.
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Where I live now there are few actual towns. Instead, people refer to where they live by neighborhood. The neighborhoods are marked on google maps. They’re used in NextDoor. We use them for deliveries.
There’s a LOT more pride in those signs than just developer. In most places, there was no singular developer. There may have been a singular seller who subdivided but they didn’t build. My house was both designed and built by the guy I bought it from. And our subdivision sign marks the area. People who are new learn about these areas in large part from the signs.
If neighborhood signs are out, then all “welcome” and place name signs should be out as well. They fill the same functions.
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In what way do you think they are different?
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Good question. They seem the same to me too.
Some city welcome signs are works of art to themselves, so destinations.
But many are an industrial post pole or two, holding a nonunique highway-department type printed sign. They’re more like street signs. Street sign says: You’re turning onto Oak Street. City limits sign says: You’re crossing an invisible boundary. Neighborhood signs (non-artistic ones) also just say: You’re crossing an invisible boundary.
You don’t stop your car and get out to explore these signs.
Park signs to represent the park - often the sign is the only anchor for a park.
Church sign because it’s less intrusive to the worshipping community.
Shopping plaza sign when it has little things that don’t merit individual wayspots, but add up to make the plaza a destination.
But a sign to represent the political line, for a whole city that surely has dozens, hundreds, or thousands of actually interesting things that it wants people to visit - and are actually great places to explore, socialize, exercise?
When I think of my park, I might think of its sign and logo. When I think of my church, I might think of its sign out front. When I think of my town, I do not think of its welcome sign. The sign simply doesn’t represent the town.
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This sounds like categorical (in)eligibility to me. If this is the consistency you were hoping for, IMO a sweeping yes/no based only on category wouldn’t reflect the nuance of the world Wayfarer seemingly tries to reflect.
You have elaborated on the aspects of the sign itself in the response here (vaguely, without specifics). I ask if this comes across in review and nominations? From my experience, it doesn’t. And a follow-up if the same sentiment is seen for all neighborhood signs? IMO, not at all.
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You’re misreading me. I’m arguing that a categorical ineligibility for neighborhood signs in inappropriate.
More specifically, I’m arguing that the same logic should be applied to all place signs, city, neighborhood, region, park, etc.
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