Green spaces where wildflowers are allowed and the grass can grow longer than 3 inches are perfectly suitable for recreation. They make much more pleasant picnic locations than mown grass.
These green deserts are not “meant” for recreation.
I would suggest approaching a local councillor or local community group to see if theis public space can be put to better use.
Locally we have had several places turned into community orchards and I am busy harvesting in those areas,
For example could a small community garden be allowed - some raised beds and fruit trees, and the grass areas left to be wildflower areas to promote pollinator spaces. An insect hotel or info board about the project. This way everyone benefits.
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I will take this onboard. Our local CA is meeting with the Council about these green deserts and other issues with the borough. Thank you
Agreed, it is not a park.
No, green spaces are not just made for people to play. Why do they create green spaces at bungalows prominently homes for older people.
Houses could be fitted in to areas already built which leaves areas. People prefer to live in areas with green spaces. They are not made as play areas (if they where why are they no play equipment).
I am old enough that as a kid we often played on the road outside our house. Can I consider this a park and nominate?
Can be used & created for are 2 different things.
So you agree that green spaces are made for play and other recreational activities.
Houses could be fitted in to areas already built which leaves areas. People prefer to live in areas with green spaces. They are not made as play areas (if they where why are they no play equipment).
These green spaces were intentionally created for recreational use. The houses were not fitted around the green space the space was a feature for people to move here. Not the other way around. Many school yards have only green space and no play equipment. Are they not intended for play? The absense of play equipment has never stopped an area from being played in.
I am going to split off the wider discussion and merge it into the original topic as this is an area worthy of discussion.
The appeal topic is at
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Now that’s properly disingenuous. I mean, if you really think that a green space and a road are the same thing, I’m not gonna stop you from subbing them.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion when I stated “No, green spaces are not just made for people to play”.
My comment was an extreme example that areas that “can be played on” and “made to play on” are 2 separate things.
Same as I don’t believe parks and Green Spaces are the same thing.
Maybe I am looking at these only from a UK perspective but does anybody have anything official where these “Greens” are called “Pocket Parks”?
@SlimboyFat71 is clearly not saying this and you don’t think they are. The point is that just because an area can be played in but does not make it an explicit area intended for play. The distinction between these two concepts is clear.
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That is what I’m asking for. I would like to know for Wayfarer purposes the difference between a “green” and a “pocket park”.
Many UK parks are mostly green with a small play area in one bit. Does the park not exist outside the play area?
Somewhat remarkably, there is something official about Pocket Parks. The phrasing is a little ambiguous, but the funding for Pocket Parks was to enable underused greenspace to be developed into usable spaces, with the implication that this would create Pocket Parks, not that every underused greenspace was be definition a Pocket Park.
I’m clearly being factious there. Because At one point they are saying anything without play equipment isn’t a play area. Then talking about playing in a road and subbing that. A curated green space is entirely different than a road.
A pocket park has at least some features beyond mown grass and trees. These features make it welcoming and can be interacted with.
@SlimboyFat71 did not suggest subbing the road. The question was obviously rhetorical.
I don’t think that we need a specific definition of “Pocket Park” for Wayfarer, and if y’all follow my comments at all, you know I am a HUGE fan of clarifications. We already have the “Park” clarification, which reads:
The issue with a park of any kind is to show that its “intended” use is as a park or recreational area. You can do this with signs, amenties, or links. But if it is just a stretch of lawn, it isn’t a park by this definition.
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Several of the residents on our street have asked that the big south facing bank full of wild flowers isnt mowed. But 1 miserable neighbour complains and the mowers continue every year despite so many attempts. It costs money and looks ugly as all the cuttings just stay there turning grey and then brown, I don’t know why this is considered “tidy” or better 
@mir1377 It is a stretch to say these spaces are “curated”. The grass is mown and fallen branches are removed. There is no careful thought, organization or presentation involved which is what “curated” requires.
@frealafgb Excellent example of the problem. Part of the problem is that mowing requires heavy machinery, while leaving it as wildflowers doesn’t - landscape workers (*) prefer the “sexy” jobs, i.e., heavy machinery. (This was the case 25 years ago and I doubt it’s changed.)
Another part is that when the management has been contracted out (almost always the case), then stopping the mowing will be very hard, because the contractor has no incentive to do less work and charge less for it.
Another part is the people who complain. They make more noise than the people who like the less-mown areas.
(*) I’ve lost the correct term, but I hope that is good enough.
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Ok i look into street view all the way back to 16 years ago. You need to understand why people are sceptical about your claim that its being used as picnic /play area. None of the streetview photo show people picnic or playing. If this is not true, you need to show more evidence more than just word. At the end, what matter is you need to prove that your nomination fit any of 3 category (exploration, exercize, socialization) .