Frustrating experience with valid nominations being rejected (Appeal denied)

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As the appeal notes state, there is a difference between “Open Space” and a Park.

Although people may exercise here is there anything here that encourages it?

Good Luck.

Just taken a look on google maps and although it’s quite impressive in size for this type of “Green Island” there is nothing on there that “encourages” exercise, socialise or explore. Just a path straight across to get you to the other side.

Just an opinion but personally I would have to agree with the rejection.

I understand the perspective from Google Maps, but static satellite images don’t reflect daily community reality.

This is not a ‘Green Island’ by accident; it is a managed public space. The infrastructure—specifically the benches and paved paths—directly encourages social interaction and rest.

Crucially, due to the high volume of bus and train traffic in the immediate surrounding area, this space is the primary safe zone for local residents to walk their dogs and for families to let children play away from dangerous traffic. It functions as a ‘Parklet’ and a green lung for Carrow Road.

The presence of seating and the high level of community foot traffic for recreation (picnics and pet exercise) clearly distinguish this site from a simple transit path. It is a vital social hub for the neighborhood.

I would try to frame this as a recreation space with improved pictures either featuring the view from the bench or the path leading in.

The criteria clarifications of a park or recreation area state that it doesn’t need a sign, so the appeal reviewer shouldn’t be asking you for a picture of the sign - you can use the bench or entrance for example instead as a placeholder.

What would help your case is if the local council mention this as a recreation space they maintain, so I would research that and give a link to that in your next try. Otherwise it does simply look like a large roundabout with a path across it.

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Actually, I’m giving up. I posted this to see if Niantic will ever see these injustices. To play PokĂ©mon Go, I can choose between being robbed, run over by a train or a bus—a very difficult choice to make, since all the options seem tempting.

I have seen a case of a signless park rejection being overturned by someone providing a link to the council showing it was a recreation space hence my suggestion

I know wayfarer feels really frustrating at times but the only way to improve the area and play where is nicer for you is to work within the wayfarer system sadly

I will look around your area for ideas if you want me to. Obviously I don’t know what areas are safe or not

Exaggerating doesn’t help your case. If an area is as bad as that, don’t go outside and don’t play games that require you to go outside.

More seriously, there are many managed green deserts in the UK. We seem to be proud of them. Mown grass with nothing of interest behind a few dotted trees and some randomly placed benches. Nothing else gets added because it would cost money to maintain and the grass is slaughtered by mowers because otherwise people would complain it looks untidy. This does not make a space automatically eligible.

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These are all really close to the origjal location - the cafe was on your screenshot. Cafes can be a great place to socialise, so I would try this. Also on the little high street look out for any community noticeboards which might be inside shops.

The other park type are has a similar little planter to at yours, I would recommend using that as part of your submission to show its a maintained recreation space (with links ideally). It also contains a football pitch which is separately eligible and may be better to begin with, as thr establishes that its a recreation space and may make the subsequent park entrance/area an easier task to submit

I checked Street View across 7 different timelines and saw no one exercising or doing anything interesting—just people using the straight path as a shortcut

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Bro, If an area is as bad as that, don’t go outside and don’t play games that require you to go outside.??? Really?

Thats is an completelly non sense comment.

Suggesting that players should simply ‘not go outside’ is a complete dismissal of the Wayfarer mission. The goal of this platform is to identify and encourage the use of safe, local community hubs—especially in urban areas where green spaces are a vital resource.

According to the Dublin City Council’s Parks Strategy, these managed open spaces are intentionally maintained to provide ‘safe places for exercise and social interaction’. My nomination aims to highlight a location that the City Council itself has designated as a functional amenity for the residents of Drimnagh.

The fact that the surrounding area is busy with transport infrastructure only increases the value of this specific green space as a safe haven for the community. We should be encouraging the mapping of these accessible urban ‘parklets’ instead of telling players to stay indoors."

You live in Dublin and said this. That’s hyperbole and nonsense.

(Also, my comment was obviously not entirely serious, given how I started the next sentence.)

Get that link from the council into a new submission and try again

Also check out if this church has anything notable architectural or artistic wise in the main or sub-building here that could be separately eligible from the church? Maybe in thr grounds there is more artwork? You have 3 empty cells here and churches often have artwork, sculptures etc that can make lovely nominations

no is not, i was attacked exactly in same place of the image below for a gang of teenagers, they did not robbed anything, just an violent attack for no reason, actually we know the reason, im not European.
It was 6 months ago, I still have the scar

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Sorry to hear that, I hope youre well recovered :yellow_heart:

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You got the point, thanks for undertand !

I found something that may help me.

Dublin City Development Plan 2022–2028 - Chapter 10: Green Infrastructure and Recreation

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I do understand. I feel anxious playing in some areas, particularly my busy town centre, and in London especially. I tend to rely on my go plus+ at those times so I can hide my phone.

The documentation will help, as will framing your picture to focus either on the entrance with the planter (with the green in the background) or the bench similarly. What Niantic don’t like is just a picture of some grass - they want a pin on a specific point. Which can easily be a bench rather tjan a sign. I can see from your local area that there are several of these kinds of spaces and they do appear to be intended for recreation.

The larger one with the football pitch looks like an ideal one, yours will be harder but not impossible :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: I think the football pitch one can be 2 separate nominations ie 2 stops because of how long it is, as it has a distinct entrance and then the pitch further down

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I am sorry that you had a nasty event but that does not mean that waypoints should not be created there or that you should be able to create a spot in a area that both reviewers and Niantic have stated does not meet criteria.

You have also mentioned benches but I don’t see any on Google Maps?

We all have to contend with Traffic, that is why places have crossing locations where required.

"What is a parklet?

A parklet is a semi-permanent public space, usually built on former parking spaces to extend the kerbside and provide more amenities, greenery and areas for residents, visitors and businesses. Often featuring urban greening elements, types of parklets include; community, hospitality, school and mobility hubs."

This does not sound like a “Parklet”, the layout of the houses show that this was designed this way when the estate was built.

Are you claiming that Society would breakdown if this “Bit of Grass” was removed???

Personally and this is without knowledge of where you live this “exaggeration” seems like the annoyance of someone that was hoping for a “couch stop”.

In regards to the documentation, I see no mention of Carrow Road?

I think u have better chance using these. But try getting one without car

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