This location is no longer the zoo’s gift shop. It is now located south of this location near the zoo’s new exit and the new red panda habitat. This photo was taken at the doors shown in the wayspot photo:
To be accurate to the current zootique gift shop location, this wayspot should be moved to these coordinates: 43°36’27.6"N 116°12’12.7"W
As a zoo employee, I try to make sure that these waypoints are up-to-date with the current status of the zoo and nearby park, but so many of my suggestions are rejected with seemingly very little review. I hope this is sufficient.
Just to add to what Alice noted, you may want to take a geotagged photo of the new entrance to provide to help chat in order to get it moved, especially if this location is not on Street View. You can download the free GPS Camera app in the app store, and it will put the lat/long coordinates on the photo, which will help confirm the new location.
It’s possible staff can pull the meta data from the photos, but the app that @DTrain2002 is showing a GPS Map camera app. It superimposed the coordinates on the picture. Really useful when it’s hard to see locations from satellite or streetview, especially with areas that have been remodeled.
The photos I put in my earlier post have GPS coordinates in their metadata. Do I really have to download a separate unaffiliated app that crowds up my image with text that can be accessed in the photo’s metadata just to have my photos taken seriously?
We aren’t talking about supporting photos that are geotagged, just photos for help chat that are to help with the location edit. I only use geotagged photos for location edits or removal requests and not for submissions.
@ZooKois The metadata might not be accessible to staff, and we haven’t been told if it is or isn’t. We’re just recommending one of the best ways to go about a location edit via help chat, which is to use a GPS camera app that puts the lat/long coordinates right on the photo itself.
I have been told they could use the location data on my photos.
I have also been told when the data wasn’t there. I had been uploading the photos from my photo to Google photos, and then sending them from there. @sunkast was able to tell me how to keep the full download for them. Now I just do reports that need photos sent from my phone so there is no middle man. But they definitely could see the location data on the photos.
@AgentX1976 said that it’s not known, and they have done many location edits and removal requests. I have provided photos that aren’t geotagged, and because there’s no Street View there, they couldn’t verify the location and do the edit.
We are simply letting them know what the best action is to take in this situation for the best chances of success. This isn’t something that needs to be argued about. It’s up to the OP to decide whether they want to take geotagged photos or not.
Okay, I downloaded the app to tag the photos with their GPS and submitted them with the Help chat. Thanks for your advice, even if I find the fact that this is necessary somewhat irritating.
Yes, it may be an extra step that not all want to take, but again, this is going to be your best option that the Wayspot will be moved to the new location.
Keep in mind that many may take the photos at one location, then upload them to another device to add them to help chat. This is what I do, as I copy the photos to my laptop from my phone; I only use help chat on my laptop. I just prefer a geotagged photo, as some of the data could change from the copy over to my laptop, but what won’t is the geotag on the photo itself.
There are pros and cons to everything, and for me, it’s a pro to use geotagged photos for location edits and removal requests, and the cons are outweighed by this pro alone. Again, it’s everyone’s choice.
Being I have said all that is needed to be said, I will be muting this thread.
It’s definitely not necessity to use those types of photos.
I’m not sure how many move, removal, or new submissions I’ve made but I’ve never used the overlay and never been challenged when a good supporting photo was available.
I’ve also rejected nominations in review for using that overlay when the support photo was otherwise unhelpful.
I do hope the extra effort worked but also suspect it would have been fine with all the additional context already provided.
Since there has been confusion about what is a geotagged photo, I am dropping this wikipedia article. The primary method for geotagging is to put the location information in the metadata. Visually displaying it on the photograph is “a” method, but it is not the most commonly used method.
As @cyndiepooh mentioned, there can be issues in that background “metadata” being avaliable, specifically if ones phone, browser, or specific app isn’t holding the tag. Keep in mind, however,
Staff has the ability to review that data and use it in their decision. That said, there are other considerations they must take and can’t always handle one situation the same as the next.
I was flagged for the way I phrased this the first time, so am trying again . This is not a necessary step, and I don’t want anyone to land on this topic and think that it is. I hope that you feel that going to the trouble was worth it. Many people do like to see the gps coordinates on their photos, and if it makes anyone feel better to display them this way, that is their choice.
IMO: I see no negatives to using the GPSCameraApp for either Supplemental or Help Chat photos.
For the supplemental we as Reviewers do not get to see the Exif Data so showing it on nominations that can not be confirmed via street-view or satellite can only be a positive.
It is not required for all but it’s a tool that can be used and definitely helps in certain situations.
Yes, it can be Faked but so can Exif Data so don’t see a problem with it.
It was recommended to me by Staff when I got 2 nominations accepted at a new build so no map. Realised I had estimated both locations south so asked help chat to fix. No other waypoints close so no gaming S2 Cells just correcting the error.
I was not happy at first, why should I add extra apps just to confirm the location when they allowed them to be accepted in the wrong location but eventually installed and it got these 2 fixed.
Since then I have used on any that are not easy to locate and quite often even when it’s not required and never had any problems.
. This is not a necessary step, and I don’t want anyone to land on this topic and think that it is. I hope that you feel that going to the trouble was worth it. Many people do like to see the gps coordinates on their photos, and if it makes anyone feel better to display them this way, that is their choice.