Removed wayspot appeal

  • Wayspot Title: Cycling route 2
  • Location (lat/lon): 50.900618, 3.783720
  • City: Zottegem
  • Country: België
  • Additional Information (if any): If you follow this trail marker you can do this route in reverse direction.
  • Zottegem fietsroute | Fietsknooppunt.be

Thanks for the appeal, @Jimmy556539. We stand by our decision to retire the Wayspot in question.

Edit: Corrected the response that was posted mistakenly!

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@NianticLC so cycling trail markers are good or only in the netherlands they are removed?

Mine are also from orginal offical trail. Can send you al the information

That’s a very interesting conclusion, considering this seems to be the exact kind of rectangular white sign with green text and a number from the node-based cycling route network in the Netherlands and Belgium that keeps getting removed on sight 99% of the time.


What makes this one “worthy”, @NianticLC?

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I am really trying to understand this so that I can help people. The extra evidence was a link to an official map, which other people have provided for appeals which were rejected. The statement, “If you follow this trail marker you can do this route in reverse direction” seems unlikely to have swayed the appeal. The street view at the coordinates indicates this is a route along a road that is open to vehicular traffic. Is that the difference - that it is not a dedicated bike route?

Almost all of those trails are offical routes, problem is that you can plan your own routes. Also and niantic decide only option 2 and scrap option 1 from official routes

Even the new 25 year jubileum route is made out of numbers.

I have shared in diffrent topic.

Only reason i can think of is because there stand offical, but most trails have that

Would be nice if rules where applied instead of random diffrent opinions

Hey, why was the wayspot in question first restored and than later removed again?

That was restored mistakenly and we have fixed it now.

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Y’all couldn’t keep quiet about it :joy:

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I know and I feel awful. I was just trying to understand which Niantic deems eligible. I will go back to my silence on bike route markers. I am so sorry I said anything.

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Shame. The first response was actually aligned with criteria, so it’s saddening to see you buckle to internal pressure and do the wrong thing after getting it right, instead of standing up for what’s right.

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The only ones who need to be sorry here are Niantic for continuing to disappoint their playerbase / volunteer workforce. They could earn so much goodwill by just not being so unbelievably uptight about these perfectly legitimate cycling route markers but they still refuse to understand.

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No need to feel awful.
You didn’t remove the wayspot.
I’m just confused why Niantic did removed it in the first place than bring it back just to remove it again.
I don’t blame anyone that commented on this.

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No need. The hypocrisy and malpractice is on Niantic.

I’ll be driving past Men’s Warehouse, today, if you want a gift from there! Oh, I’ll even be able to see the dentist office they approved. I’m not used to driving that way, but if I get lost they’ve approved every map in the nearby apartment complex that shows the building numbers.

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Does writhing in pain in the dental chair not count as exercise? Plenty of people sweat more at the dentist than at the gym.

Plus, having small talk with the lady behind the desk obviously counts as socializing.

And they often have so much art on the wall that it’s almost like you’re exploring a museum!

I’m confused too, since every removal and restoration decision is apparently made by an entire team of people. So multiple people agreed to remove your wayspot, then they agreed that that was a mistake and put it back, and then they agreed that THAT was a mistake and removed it again.

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Imagine how different Wayfaring would be if The Team was transparent about their deliberations.

Instead of simply flip-flopping this way, they could reveal the underlying principle or policy.

Their corrections would help us to make more sense of criteria. Their mistakes could lead to real discussion among the community. Our collective understanding would be improved and refined with every report and appeal.

Who at Niantic opposes this clarity?

Why?

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To be fair, they already have guidelines… they’re just not following them themselves. The guidelines for trail markers are very clear and the ones that a couple of us have been talking about lately clearly fit the bill, but for some reason Niantic decided that every small village and rural area needs to have their only Waypoints removed! As if these Waypoints are any lower in quality than what you see in the city.

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