Scopely and future of Wayfarer

Did Campfire get a press release?

I know all the games did, but I Wayfarer and Campfire are more “services” that plug in to the games

I may be missing the mark here, but I do see Wayfarer as a significant component. Not necessarily on the same scale as the games, but does play a significant part in making in improving the respective Games by increasing the POI’s available. I don’t know if Wayfarer or Campfire should get a seperate announcement, but we will see.

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Yeah, I think maybe mixed up. I wasn’t saying Wayfarer was unimportant. Just that it isn’t a game if we are looking at all the games having had press releases.

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Well, being Campfire can’t be used for all of the games, I don’t care too much there. Wayfarer is a little more important of a service to all of the games that use the map, and some are now with Scopely, some stayed with Niantic.

Which game can’t it be used for? Pikmin Bloom?

You can still make Pikmin Bloom groups on it though.

So I think that counts

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This must be the iOS version, as the Android version doesn’t have Pikmin Bloom:

I also don’t play Pikmin, and am just trying to get to level 8 in Ingress, so just really tuned into PoGo.

Hopefully staff dont mind this youtube link, but sharing since its the most content full interview so far regarding the future of most of the products involved including Wayfarer.

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wayfarer is just the poi review process which was ingress OPR (operation portal recon) first and renamed wayfarer
it’s not the POI database which is lightship and stay at niantic

That would be counterintuitive - imagine the Wayfarer team encouraging users to add and update wayspots, only for the data to go to a different company and then come back to be used in the games. From the buyer’s perspective, with a $3.5 billion price tag, it makes sense for the deal to include the wayspot database, the entire infrastructure, and the teams that support it.

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So the real question is: will the new startup (which includes Ingress and Scaniverse) continue to receive updates from Wayfarer? Too bad there’s no one on the Ingress team who can talk to the XM Ambassadors and provide answers.

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I would say hold my beer whilst I get someone… but sadly I have no influence.

Since I can nominate in Pokémon GO & Ingress, knowledge of the future assuming any could provide as to whether I need to nominate in both games assuming also eligible in Ingress is much desired to know. Having to nominate twice is simple to do but will become annoying when done. That assuming that becomes the situation. I can only guess what things might be after the changes occur here.

I read all of the above speculation.

The main press release still noted that both Scopely and Niantic do hope to work together, so hopefully we won’t have to submit twice to add to different maps. Keep in mind that many different companies partner up all the time, for a shared interest, like how sponsored Wayspots are a partnership between a business wanting to do some promotion while adding game play locations or gifts in-game.

Again, just one of the many questions that we need answers to.

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i don’t think they include the wayspot database : lightship. just the review interface wayfarer as it’s said. wayfarer have never been the POI database.

ingress was the database from 2012, niantic reviewed all portal nomination
2015 we are at 3 years+ of nomination backlog they remove the nomination feature from ingress
july 2016 pogo comes out they change all portals criterias to be compatible with the hordes of pokemon players. a lot of removal of old POI
2017 OPR (Operation Portal Recon) was created for ingress agent to review portal nomination.
2018-2019? the OPR website / interface/forum became wayfarer and they moved the portal database from ingress to lightship and named them POI or waypoint. you can now nominate poi on pogo.
2025 they sell wayfarer & pogo but keep ingress/lightship.

niantic selling the review interface and keeping the database is weird.

This hasn’t really been confirmed by either side though. Yes, the database is now called the Spatial Platform officially, which would make it seem as it could be staying with the new Niantic, but the press release from Scopely notes this:

Wayfarer” enables players to map new locations for their favorite Niantic games, directly shaping their adventures in the games they love.
-The “Wayfarer” community has added more than 11.5 million new Wayspot locations to Niantic games since its 2019 launch.

There’s still some confusion as to how everything will work in the future.

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2015 is when niantic said.. we nd helppppp haha

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PoGo Hub just shared a breakdown article about this:

https://pokemongohub.net/post/interview/pokemon-gos-michael-steranka-interview-reveals-more-info-on-scopely-sale/

The most important thing I took away from reading this about the interview was that nothing is changing in the immediate future for the products moving over to Scopely.

An update from John Hanke.

Doesn’t really answer any of our questions here, except that there may be staff that’s impacted by the change, which isn’t unusual.