地域の屋外拡声子局はwayspotととしてふさわしいですか？
日本の屋外拡声子局の特徴としては祭りなどのイベントを地域に分かりやすく伝えたり、地域の情報を伝えたりします。例えば、水不足などが起きた場合は地域の人に水をなるべく使わないように伝えたり、自然災害が起きた場合は避難の指示をします。また、夜が始まると外で遊んでいる子供たちが家に帰るように音楽を流します。その音楽は地域によって異なります。このように屋外拡声子局は探検基準の地域について教えてくれる対象物などで基準を満たしています。
屋外拡声子局は掲示板よりも数が少ないです。掲示板は1つの地区に複数、多くて10個以上ある地区もありますが、屋外拡声子局は1つの地区に1つがほとんどです。
工場や学校などにある地域との関係がない屋外拡声子局は基準を満たしていないと思います。
屋外拡声子局についてどう思いますか？
Remember the way spot eligibility criteria. A nomination must be a great place to explore, to exercise, or to gather socially. A loud speaker does not obviously meet any of those criteria. Important information might be shared over the speaker, but does the speaker itself meet any of the criteria? If so, wouldn’t everyone’s phone and television meet the exact same criteria? I mean you can get the same type of information from your phone or tv.
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だとしたら掲示板もダメですね。掲示板に掲示物が貼られているだけなので。
掲示物としては新聞やチラシなどと同じ。としても一時的だが。掲示物は見る物だけど掲示板としてなら見に来る物ではないね。
屋外拡声子局は探検する場所ではないとしても探検基準の例の文章が一致している。交流基準も地域についての共有で一致。
I think that is a difficult argument to support. Bulletin boards are fixed points that bring people to them. Also, I would not approve a bulletin board that only provides safety information or similar. The bulletin board needs to provide information that promotes exploration or socialization like community events or cultural exhibits.
Speakers, by definition, broadcast information across an area. You don’t need to come to the speaker to get the information, so, IMO do not make eligible way spots, but that is just one opinion.
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掲示板ではなく掲示物としてですね。掲示物がなければ意味がないのかな？
Exactly. If it is not proven to be in use, even if it is on a bulletin board, I would not hesitate to reject it. I believe that the local community bulletin board meets the social and explorer criteria set forth by Wayfarer because it is a place to learn about local activities. However, what do we want from a board that has nothing posted on it? There is no need to visit anything.
I think it is great that you are challenging a new and previously unknown nomination to become a Wayspot, but that argument is not enough to convince other Wayfinders. I also do not believe that outdoor speakers meet Wayfarer’s eligibility criteria.
I would also like to tell you one more thing, and I know this because we are also Japanese. You are raising new questions and posing questions to many people. And Leedle95 answered them. But your response in Japanese does not show respect for Leedle95. Because we speak different languages, the robot translation cannot tell if the expression is respectful or not, but as I am also Japanese, I can see that there is no respect. There is no need to be humble, but it is disrespectful to him/her who is still responding to you across the language difference. Please change your attitude.
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I’d say it’s indistinct, generic, infrastructure. Nobody meets at the speaker to socialize. Or if they do - provide links to prove it.
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掲示物が貼られている掲示板はどのように審査しますか？掲示板ではなく一時的な掲示物としての審査ですか？掲示物だけが基準を満たしていますか？
Eligibility criteria are important both when submitting nominations and when reviewing them. People may go to the location for purposes other than playing Niantic games, and the purpose must fit into one of the eligibility criteria Explorer, Social, or Exercise. The same is true for bulletin board nominations, so check the posted material to see if they meet any of the eligibility criteria. The posted material are for reference only; it is the bulletin board that is reviewed.
候補を提出する際にも審査する際にも適性基準が重要です。その場所にナイアンティックゲームで遊ぶ以外の目的で行くことがあり、その目的が適性基準のエクスプローラ、ソーシャル、エクササイズのいずれかにあてはまらなければなりません。掲示板の候補も同じでその適性基準のいずれかに該当しているかを確認するために掲示物を確認します。掲示物は参考であって審査するものは掲示板です。
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日本語で失礼します。
私も日本人です。あなたが「掲示板」のWayspotに強い不満をお持ちなのは理解します。私もそのひとりですので。
しかしながら、あなたはこのフォーラムに「屋外拡声子局」がWayspotにふさわしいのかどうか、という質問を「世界中のWayfarer」に発信しました。
あなたはそれについての議論を展開すべきであり、「掲示板」についての不平不満をこの場で展開すべきではありません。それを展開するならば他のフォーラムで議論するか、別のスレッドを立てるべきです。
私もクラウンフェザーさんと同意見です。この場での発言は世界中のWayfarerが見ています。日本人として、他者に対し十分に敬意を持って発言するようお願いいたします
Excuse me for speaking in Japanese.
I am also Japanese. I understand that you have strong dissatisfaction with the Wayspot on the Bulletin Board. I am one of them.
However, you have sent a question to “Wayfarers around the world” on this forum about whether “outdoor loudspeaker substations” are suitable for Wayspots.
You should develop a discussion about that, not develop your complaints about the Bulletin Board here. If you do, you should discuss it in another forum or start a separate thread.
I agree with Crown Feather. What you say here is seen by Wayfarers around the world. As a Japanese person, I ask that you make your comments with due respect to others.
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ローカルな建築会社のショベルカーが撮影されていますが
兵庫県揖保郡太子町付近でwayspotが少ないということですか？
マップを見た所まだまだ町の見どころの物が沢山あります。
ふさわしいのは掲示板だけではありません
もう少し基準を確認してください
掲示板が出来た代わりに地元の魅力が減ったと感じてください
(掲示板の為地元の名店が登録されなかった者より)
掲示板の理由が見るという感じではなさそう。
Read this article first. The first important thing it says is.
Niantic Wayfarer is a one-of-a-kind community mapping program that allows you to directly shape your real-world adventures across all Niantic games. It is marked as an adventure in the real world.
In other words, the role of mapping in Wayfarer is to guide Niantic game players directly to the location. It is an adventure, so the question is what is to be gained by going to that place. Public art cannot be seen without going there. If it is a historical site sign, we must be there to see it and read about it. If it is a restaurant, we must go there to enjoy the food and talk with our friends. If it is a little free library, we cannot go there to borrow a book or leave our readings at the library. If it is a community bulletin board, we must go to the place to get the very local information.
But you have not given an explanation that would satisfy other Wayfinders as to why they should go to that loudspeaker pillar that you are posing as a new Wayspot. I wish I could support that reason with you, but I can’t think of one. I am sorry, but I suggest you look for another nomination.
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