I apologize. I probably should have used the abuse report form, but this was too outrageous to ignore.
If a board has two pillars, does that mean they’re all bulletin boards!? Look at this!
Title : （株）ナカサク駐車場掲示板
Location : 35.018636,136.122756
Desctiption : 駐車場の情報が掲示されています。
Hey, who submitted this Wayspot?
Hey, who approved this Wayspot?
Hey, who submitted location edits for this Wayspot four times?
Hey, it’s a bulletin board, but nothing’s posted here—not even images or Street View?
Hey, this board can’t even hold an A4 sheet vertically, yet it’s a bulletin board? Maybe one sheet horizontally would fit, but most postings are vertical—is it even usable?
Hey, even if it is a bulletin board, what’s it for? Why was it approved when nothing’s posted?
Someone answer my questions.
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I wonder if this will fall foul of the strict removal criteria. The object in question is just a piece of board tied onto two thin metal poles which can be stuck into the ground by hand, but it does exist and is safely accessible.
I understand why you’re angry, but calm down.
If we banned the nominator and reviewer over this incident, your anger might subside.
But, I don’t know how much you realize this, the root cause lies in the longstanding issue of bulletin board eligibility in Japan.
In Japan, many reviewers and nominators believe “any kind of bulletin board is eligible.”
This situation likely remains uncorrected in Japan today.
Given this situation, even if we banned such submissions, the issue wouldn’t be resolved. The next ineligible bulletin board would likely be nominated immediately.
To put it bluntly, people who think that nailing a board to a wall makes it a bulletin board, placing a box on the roadside makes it a free library, or attaching a cross or shrine to a tree with nails makes it a religious facility—and who want pokestop based on that logic—still exist today.
I think you and your Wayfarer community must make it clear to trainers that “not all bulletin boards are eligible.”
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I find it curious tgat this board only seems to show what I would consider the back of it. I would expect the other side to be where any information would be posted, so it looks a bit odd and I am left wondering what is on the other side.
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To me it looks like a fake/misrepresented PoI, ie not a bulletin board at all but a photo of the back of a sign of some sort
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Both sides are visible on streetview and are equally featureless. The most curious aspect is that visually the twisted metal poles go up both sides of the board, despite this actually being impossible.
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It definitely doesn’t look like a bulletin board, but a sign such as “private parking”. Both sides being blank don’t help this theory.
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This does not appear to be an information sign. This appears to be there to prevent drivers from not seeing the drop off at this wall.
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I don’t believe all bulletin boards are eligible, but I do believe those used by communities to report activities or provide information to local residents are eligible.
The structure of this object is purely visual, but the pillars appear to be architectural rebar, and the panels seem to be made of rigid plastic corrugated cardboard. It’s a simple construction where holes are drilled into the panels and they are tied together with rebar and wire. However, it’s unclear whether this is a signboard or a bulletin board, as neither the Wayspot image nor Street View provides clarity. While the latest Street View shows this object present, it was not installed in older versions. Naturally, if this is the state of the Wayspot image, the supplementary information image also wouldn’t prove what this panel is used for. Despite this, both the submitter and the reviewers treat this panel as a bulletin board, considering it to meet the eligiblity criteria even though its actual purpose remains unknown.
The responsibility to prove that this is a bulletin board used by the community for its activities lies with the submitter. This may sound harsh, but you should photograph the board with such posts displayed as proof. However, I simply cannot see this as a bulletin board.
No-one in this thread is trying to claim this is an eligible bulletin board. You want the wayspot removed, which is rational, but the chances of that are slim since it exists and is safely accessible.
It would appear the responsibility of the submitter here was to have enough people (known? unknown?) reviewing who wanted another pokestop and weren’t that bothered about wayfarer criteria.
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I’m sorry, I understand that point. I understand it’s hard to remove.
I don’t think showing what I’m about to say will get it removed. But I found a clue as to what this was. I found a similar object made of panels of the same material as the rebar, right on the opposite side of this plot of land.
location : 35.017641,136.122762
In Japanese, it reads as: “Dog poop is…“ The small, illegible text that follows can be found on the same poster when searched via image search. The full text is: ”Dog poop should be picked up by the owner." Perhaps this poster was originally affixed to the object that became a Wayspot, and it simply fell off.
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The board is semi-transparent; it took me forever to figure that out
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Doh! I didn’t realise that
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Seeing what looked like the metal rods on both sides, but at the same time only one side, drove me crazy for at least 20 minutes. My brain wouldn’t let me let it go lol
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It’s probably something along those lines.
I’m thinking the same thing.
However, the issue isn’t something that can be solved just by deleting this one wayspot.
In Japan, a misunderstanding about what qualifies as a bulletin board has spread so widely that even boards that clearly don’t meet any social criteria have been approved as wayspots.
During past Wayfarer challenges focused on Japan, I saw all kinds of bulletin board submissions—ones from apartment complexes, political parties, military, K-12 schools, and even highly specialized public organizations that have nothing to do with social interaction or exploration.
And when I checked the surrounding area, I often found similar ones already approved as wayspots.
The real problem is that this misunderstanding has drifted even further in Japan, to the point where things like the one we’re discussing now are being approved.
Unless that underlying misconception is corrected, his frustration isn’t going to go away.
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Yes. I am concerned that bulletin boards that do not meet the eligibility criteria, including social media, are being designated as Wayspots.
Wayfinders who still have a limited understanding of the criteria will experience conflicts when encountering such Wayspots.
However, removing this Wayspot with a peeling notice sign will likely be difficult. I believe this reflects the current limitations of the removal criteria, so I’ll accept this for now and hope for improvements.
Thank you to everyone who replied.
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