Apelación de POI

Apele a la decisión de parte de Niantic, cuento entró en revisión se mostraba el logo de Niantic. mi propuesta es un mural creado por artistas urbanos y niños de una escuela, en las paredes de esta misma, ya que continuamente las vandalizaban.
El mural es reciente tiene alrededor de 6 meses de que lo crearon. Quizás mis fotos no son adecuadas, sin embargo, no creo que sea el caso. Abajo dejo las capturas mi propuesta.


International Year of the Child Mural.

Appeal Notes

According to the criteria, a mural is considered a valid location. This one was recently created by the local community. Therefore, I believe it is a great spot to explore.


Description

Mural created by children and local artists to beautify their school. It creatively represents science, mathematics, and physics. It inspires learning and art in the community.


Supplementary Information

This mural was created by students and local urban artists as part of a community effort to beautify their school and celebrate knowledge. Through colorful images related to natural sciences, mathematics, and physics, it promotes learning and creativity in an educational setting. It is located in a highly transited area, surrounded by schools and shops, making it a visible, accessible, and lively spot. It is an artistic expression that strengthens the bond between the community and knowledge, and also serves as a source of inspiration for those who pass by.

Hello and welcome,

All you can do at this point is wait to hear back from the appeals team. There’s nothing that anyone can do in the forums for an appealed nomination still waiting for staff to review it.

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Unfortunately, you are unlikely to get this one through.

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Unfortunately yea. School wall is ineligible

De haber sido enviada a votación habría sido aprobada, hay muchos casos así. Pero bueno, hay más lugares en la zona que se pueden proponer y tomare en cuenta esto para futuras ocasiones.

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If there are “many” murals in Wayfarer on school walls for children under 18, they need to be removed from the map. They are not eligible.

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No creo que eliminarlas todas sea la solución. La comunidad suele ser sensata al evaluar, y sin contexto, sería fácil cometer errores y borrar propuestas válidas que sí cumplen con los lineamientos.

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Entiendo completamente que la regla sobre escuelas K-12 es clara y se debe respetar. Solo quería compartir que consideré que esta propuesta era válida porque el mural se encuentra en la calle posterior a la entrada de la escuela, no interfiere con el acceso ni con las actividades escolares, y está visible desde un espacio público. Además, fue un proyecto en el que participó la comunidad local, lo que lo hace significativo. Dicho esto, respeto que es un caso cerrado y acataré las normas establecidas por Niantic.

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Absolutely no wayspots should be on the grounds on schools that primarily serve children under 18. That is a hard rule for Wayfarer.

I don’t think they are arguing about the school ineligibility. I think they are saying that they don’t think all murals should be removed from game, or that they should be judged on their own merit. They may be unfamiliar with criteria, especially eligible/ineligible locations.

I’m thinking that ML most likely rejected this, as it saw that it was on the grounds of a school.

We say “primarily” because there are some institutions that function primarily as colleges or universities - places where you get education after finishing your main schooling. Some of those allow a few teens to start early or enroll at the same time they are finishing their “high school” education. But those teens make up a very small fraction of the student body. Their presence doesn’t make the college or university ineligible.

But a place where the majority is under 18 with maybe a handful of over 18 students would be ineligible.

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You realize that would make places like Harvard, Duke, Cambridge, or NYU ineligible, right? Almost all universities take kids under 18 if they are smart enough to start young. Heck, I started college at a nationally ranked engineering school at 17.

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That is a niche interpretation of the schools restriction. By that understanding, all universities would have to be rejected.

You’d also have to reject all pubs in the UK, because children are allowed into pubs (even if they can’t drink alcohol) and can be served soft drinks/crisps etc.

Does this mean that a church that offers a creche service is also ineligible?

If it’s only educational institutions, what about universities that offer a creche service?

Those are services related to prek-12 in the same building. If you accept those as not breaking eligiibility, you need a dividing line between services that are acceptable and services that aren’t.

Except, those larger institutions are why we use the word “primarily.” Because “technically” all universities “serve” kids under 18 and we must have a way to separate them from institutions that “primarily” serve kids under 18.

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Let’s keep churches out of this convo. There’s another topic for that.

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Can you help me understand better where exactly this wall is located? Your initial description makes it seem like this is the wall that surrounds the school, but i want to be sure that is the case.

Me alejé un poco porque sentí que no había disposición para entender los motivos de mi postulación. El mural está en la barda trasera que rodea la escuela, justo en el lado opuesto a la entrada principal. En esa pared no hay accesos ni comunicación directa con el interior del plantel. Sé que, según los criterios, NO ES elegible por estar en el límite, aunque esos lineamientos pueden ser algo ambiguos.

Por ejemplo, a menos de dos metros de la entrada principal, sobre la banqueta, hay un altar religioso que sí cumple con todos los criterios. Aunque está justo al frente, al encontrarse en vía pública, no se considera dentro del perímetro escolar y por eso puede ser aprobado.

¿No vale la pena considerar también el contexto específico y aplicar el criterio con el mismo nivel de análisis en todos los casos?

En mi país, la mayoría de las universidades no están abiertas al público en general. Solo puedes ingresar si estás inscrito o tienes alguna relación con la institución (como estudiante, profesor o personal). En ese sentido, funcionan igual que propiedades privadas, ya que el acceso está restringido.

Entonces me cuesta entender por qué muchas universidades sí se consideran elegibles, si comparten las mismas características que las propiedades privadas (acceso limitado, uso exclusivo para ciertas personas, propiedad cerrada, etc.).