Appeal for restoration of all the removed trail markers in my area

Now that the Wayfarer criteria have been updated and trail markers are explicitly eligible again (Trails & Markers), I would like for all the countless trail markers that have been removed in my area to be restored. I created a thread about it (So are trail markers eligible again or not?) from which I concluded from my conversation with @NianticAaron that all of these types of trail markers are eligible. I have also already appealed a few of them in the Wayfarer contributions page and all of them were accepted, so I am confident that all of the appeals I will be posting in this topic will also be accepted.

So without further ado, let’s get into the list. I will not be listing the city and country for each one, since they are all the same.

  • City: Eindhoven
  • Country: The Netherlands

The first type of trail marker I will be addressing is the “wandelrouteknooppunten” and their corresponding trail markers.


These poles are the heart and soul of the state-sponsored network of hiking trails in the entire province of Noord-Brabant. The entire trail network is thoroughly mapped out on this website: Plan je eigen wandelroute | VisitBrabant
The numbered orbs on the map reflect the locations of each of these numbered poles. The red lines between the numbered orbs are the official trails themselves, and they are mapped out by either these stickers in urban areas:

or these poles (in rural areas where there are no street signs or streetlights to place the stickers on):

“Wandelrouteknooppunten” I want restored:

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 70 Eindhoven
  • Wrong location (lat/lon): 51.423542,5.469095
  • Correct location (lat/lon): 51.423267,5.469672

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 87
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.462256,5.469328

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 92 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.429222,5.478777

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 88
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.455476,5.461021

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 50 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.416202,5.464576

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 99
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.416694,5.470381

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 96
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.434605,5.504639

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 3
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.483247,5.456853

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 69
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.484828,5.486012

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 1
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.482677,5.450602

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 1 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.406630,5.476131

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 90
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457083,5.479073

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelrouteknooppunt 57
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471227,5.475304

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppunt 80
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.476375,5.449550

Hiking trail marker stickers/poles I want restored:

  • Wayspot Title: Trail marker - Driehoeksbos
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.477996,5.451224

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute padaanwijzing Rechtsaf Richting het Tongelreeppad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421429,5.478763

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute rechtdoor richting de Landsteinerlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.412380,5.494365

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470695,5.440171

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute: Vlonders bij Philips fruittuin vanuit Driehoeksbos
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470805,5.439544

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad: (klein) Gedicht rondje vanuit Prinsejacht
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470963,5.443489

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad over de Grote Beek
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470598,5.444061

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471175,5444158

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.461942,5.445899

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute de Grote Beek
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.465332,5.449609

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute: Gedicht Rondje vanuit Prinsejagt
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.468238,5.445594

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing rechtdoor naar knooppunt 58
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.419501,5.479909

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing rechtdoor naar knooppunt 74
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418609,5.478841

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Rechtdoor richting Wandelknooppunt 72
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.416943,5.468318

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppuntroute rechtdoor, geelblauwe route linksaf Eikenburg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.407715,5.483392

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzingen Tongelreeppad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418561,5.474475

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing wandelroute Velddoornweg Genneperweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.411735,5.470438

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.473249,5.442033

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Padaanwijzing Rechtdoor Geel
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421535,5.474955

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad rechtsaf Jacob Reviuslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421863,5.480789

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Genneperweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.414558,5.470835

  • Wayspot Title: Geel groene trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.458555,5.461223

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroutemarker Barrierweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.461326,5.465474

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroutemarker Schiestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.477713,5.424076

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroutemarker IJsselstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.479924,5.426760

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Eikenburg in de richting van wandelknooppunt 65
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.408478,5.485194

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelknooppuntenroute rechtdoor in westelijke richting
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.409409,5.487422

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroutemarker Roerstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481505,5.426721

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing rechtdoor naar wandelknooppunt 55
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.408595,5.485550

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing rechtdoor naar wandelknooppunt 65
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.407080,5.481845

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelpad Rechtdoor Smalle Haven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.436687,5.483933

  • Wayspot Title: Geel groene trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.462075,5.453971

  • Wayspot Title: Geel groene trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.462172,5.472793

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Boschdijk naar knooppunt 34
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.463061,5.452917

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Anna Bijnsweg naar knooppunt 26
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.426576,5.485292

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute aanwijzing Aanschotpark
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.486267,5.469756

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.455009,5.478340

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.456666,5.478423

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.454780,5.480149

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.456507,5.478147

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.454504,5.478696

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.463654,5.482455

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457612,5.482874

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.462324,5.482565

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.453667,5.481157

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Wandelroute Roerstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481503,5.426722

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Wandelroute Roerstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481772,5.427212

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Wandelroute Roerstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.482284,5.428806

  • Wayspot Title: Wandelroute Trailmarker
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.453196,5.481366

Up next, we have the trail marker signs of the official state-sponsored cycling route network. Similarly to the hiking trail network, this entire network is thoroughly mapped out on this website: Plan je eigen fietsroute | VisitBrabant
This network is mapped out by these signs:


And the numbered orbs on the map represent the location of large information boards featuring a map of the city and the cycling routes. An example of these is this Ingress portal: Ingress Intel Map

Cycling trail marker signs I want restored:

  • Wayspot Title: U nadert knooppunt 2
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.458469,5.450414

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 29 Rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.416351,5.458782

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsknooppunt 03
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471316,5.434589

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 03 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470973,5.435340

  • Wayspot Title: Knooppunt fietsroute “Rondje Eindhoven”
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.493434,5.474063

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Fietsroute 01 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.479251,5.436632

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 28 Rechtdoor
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.417356,5.465834

  • Wayspot Title: Fiets route nummer 2
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.479052,5.447252

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 01
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.485101,5.487894

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 89 Linksaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.417586,5.467499

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 29
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418072,5.467885

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersbord fietsknooppunten netwerk
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.456115,5.450522

  • Wayspot Title: Cycle path to point 8
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.491509,5.468497

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 63 rechtdoor Genneperweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.413087,5.469806

  • Wayspot Title: U nadert knooppunt 2
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.455202,5.451521

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 71 rechtsaf naar Genneperweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.416885,5.469553

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 89
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.429142,5.477936

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 89 linksaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.436271,5.476991

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 89 rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.436335,5.477681

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 29 rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.431668,5.479607

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 29 rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.429617,5.478441

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 89 rechtdoor
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.435755,5.478912

  • Wayspot Title: U nadert knooppunt 60 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.406187,5.474799

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 20 Rechtsaf en rondje eindhoven rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.424523,5.476104

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 60 Stappendijk Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.407321,5.479767

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroutenetwerk Eindhoven: Route Richting Knooppunt 71
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.415817,5.470734

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute 98 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464857,5.501037

  • Wayspot Title: U nadert knooppunt 97
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.445466,5.477124

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Fietsroute 03 Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.479798,5.436371

Up next is the cycling route “Rondje Eindhoven”. A touristic cycling route through the city, created in 2010 by the city and the local tourism agency. This article (Mysterie: wat voor route in Eindhoven is Rondje Eindhoven?) describes it in detail. This cycling route is represented by these signs:

“Rondje Eindhoven” trail marker signs I want restored:

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.460664,5.475026

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.461582,5.475047

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.460648,5.477915

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.461574,5.475052

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven Fietsroute - Anjelierstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.422049,5.487554

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven - Oude Bossche Baan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.467052,5.456502

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven Fietsroute rechtdoor - Bennekel
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.417383,5.464836

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven - Oude Bossche Baan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464065,5.459201

  • Wayspot Title: Route Eindhoven Beverloweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.482237,5.475687

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.485345,5.491429

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Rondje Eindhoven Fietsroute rechtdoor
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.437516,5.482659

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven Tempellaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.484480,5.486975

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven - Boschdijk
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.469382,5.447322

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven Fietsroute Linksaf - Tongelresestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.446761,5.515238

  • Wayspot Title: Fietsroute aanduiding Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.487452,5.467300

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven & VVN Verkeersexamenroute Generaal Pattonlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.460818,5.476566

  • Wayspot Title: Rondje Eindhoven & VVN Verkeersexamenroute Joris Minnestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.462200,5.472027

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457525,5.488634

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker Rondje Eindhoven
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457327,5.487393

And lastly, we have the trail markers for the Veilig Verkeer Nederland (VVN) Verkeersexamenroute (https://examen.vvn.nl/): a cycling route designed by the Dutch traffic safety authority for teaching traffic safety to children. Virtually every Dutch city has one of these routes, since teaching children traffic safety while cycling is very important in a country with such a major bicycle culture as the Netherlands. These routes are often used by both schools and parents to teach their children, while also being a nice route to follow for tourists. This route is mapped out using these signs:

VVN Verkeersexamenroute signs I want restored:

  • Wayspot Title: Oefenroute voor het VVN Verkeersexamen - Broekakkerseweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.446522,5.520668

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamen Route - Sint Gerardusplein
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.420856,5.488224

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Fransebaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.478719,5.444016

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf richting Frankrijkstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.452485,5.464640

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Oefenroute VVN Verkeersexamen - J. Reviuslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421375,5.481718

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Oefenroute VVN Verkeersexamen - OrchideeĂ«nstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421180,5.488311

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Oude Bossche Baan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.467923,5.456337

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamen route Amelandlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.476631,5.466963

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Fakkellaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.474596,5.459748

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Barrierweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.460245,5.463515

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf Roelantlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.476434,5.464094

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Europalaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457136,5.472907

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Oefenroute VVN Verkeersexamen - Ton Smitspark
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418916,5.482145

  • Wayspot Title: Oefenroute VVN Verkeersexamen - Roostenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418948,5.492100

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.467540,5.501473

  • Wayspot Title: VVN verkeersexamen Selderijstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.475956,5.498370

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Poolsterlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.468251,5.500764

  • Wayspot Title: VVN verkeersexamen Firmamentlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.468284,5.499961

  • Wayspot Title: VVN verkeersexamen rechtdoor
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470619,5.492273

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamen routebord VenetiĂ«straat - rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.483968,5.499425

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord VenetiĂ«straat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.483898,5.501309

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord Vaartbroek
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.477664,5.500725

  • Wayspot Title: VVN verkeersexamenroute rechtsaf
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.476474,5.498265

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord ItaliĂ«laan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.483257,5.501856

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord Mirabelweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481890,5.497308

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord De Stoutheuvel
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.477905,5.491701

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord Airbornelaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.475778,5.493275

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamen routebord ItaliĂ«laan - Vaartbroek
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481715,5.500918

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord Kleine Beerpad
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.474239,5.496220

  • Wayspot Title: Verkeersexamenroutebord Grote Beerlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471869,5.495536

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Fransebaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.478562,5.445303

  • Wayspot Title: Padaanwijzing Oefenroute VVN Verkeersexamen - Merckthoef
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.447050,5.516175

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Rembrandtplein
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.438618,5.505194

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Vincent van Goghstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.438629,5.500990

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route - Sint Leonardusstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.427195,5.498255

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenen route
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.474676,5.484343

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route linksaf Limburglaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.432287,5.454434

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker VVN Verkeersexamen
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.455337,5.463671

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf richting de Beemdstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.431602,5.455112

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtsaf Parklaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.441566,5.492033

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Doornakkersweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.439375,5.520979

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Valklaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.439592,5.495492

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Hercules Segherslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.438264,5.507601

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Rubensstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.438962,5.497982

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf richting Kortonjolaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.418939,5.484261

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Tongelresestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.444944,5.513895

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Linkaf Tongelresestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.443496,5.512959

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route linksaf Molijnstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.439535,5.517015

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtsaf Fuutlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.444079,5.501589

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Kerstrooslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.419913,5.495322

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf richting Begoniastraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421582,5.492417

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route linksaf - Begoniastraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.421625,5.490255

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Rechtdoor Fazantlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.440764,5.493328

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route linksaf richting Roostenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.417231,5.491486

  • Wayspot Title: Trailmarker VVN Verkeersexamen
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.457900,5.460970

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtdoor - Menno van Coehoornlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.456013,5.462222

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Generaal Marshallweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464420,5.477816

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Generaal Marshallweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464425,5.476669

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Mercuriuslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.469147,5.491019

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Vlokhovenseweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471375,5.482691

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Generaal Marshallweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.461170,5.482471

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Lehmbruckstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.460742,5.475779

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Veldmaarschalk Montgomerylaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464245,5.475086

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Argonautenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464110,5.496010

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Odysseuslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.464305,5.492920

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Mgr. Witloxweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.468814,5.458266

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Bisschop Bekkerslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.476367,5.477365

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Fruinlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.471236,5.462193

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Jan Romeinstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470653,5.462186

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Frankrijkstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.454622,5.465724

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Vlokhovenseweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.470526,5.479220

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Oude Bossche Baan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.478659,5.447568

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Pisanostraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.459892,5.475241

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Monseigneur Swinkelsstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.456382,5.472742

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Sonseweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481950,5.495613

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Argonautenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.465883,5.497025

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Argonautenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.466700,5.497208

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Damocleslaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.466097,5.496934

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Huizingalaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.478565,5.456851

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Sterrenlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.467645,5.491197

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Roelantlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.474902,5.460576

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Veluwelaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.477187,5.463365

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Verkeersexamenroute Fransebaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.481643,5.441076

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route linksaf - Schouwbroekseweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.440656,5.457471

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtdoor - Strijpsestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.438971,5.462461

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route rechtsaf - Langdonkenstraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.439623,5.463371

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route Linksaf - Kardinaal van Rossumlaan
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.426641,5.509602

  • Wayspot Title: VVN Route Linksaf - Geert Grootestraat
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.425255,5.508499

  • Wayspot Title: VVN route - Hastelweg
  • Location (lat/lon): 51.437396,5.455635
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Their AI is going on a rampage removing many eligible and legitimate wayspots. Their AI is very flawed and needs a lot of work still.

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Machine Learning (ML) used by Niantic does not remove waypoints. To the best of my knowledge it only accepts Waypoints and Edit suggestions.

It is indeed also being used for those purposes, but trust me I know for a 100% it also plays a part in removing valid wayspots. It’s good they use it to filter out coal while people submit coal, but to remove valid wayspots on mass scale especially in the Netherlands is just absurd tbh.

I very much doubt this. Most trail markers are automatically approved by Emily. The removals were very likely to have been manual as a result.

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no it’s not being used for this

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Yep, there were some local Ingress players who were very eager to remove as many portals from the other team’s play areas as possible.

You mean that they get accepted right/24hrs after nominating by the AI? How come that almost half of my manual reviews that I do I come across trail markers? If they would be accepted by the AI, I wouldn’t encounter them en masse right?

I did say “most” and not “all”. Emily seems to be able to recognise a decent amount of trail markers and will approve those that she can successfully identify. Some of them she doesn’t seem to be able to easily recognise though, and those get through into regular reviews.

So, @NianticAaron , I have here a quote from you saying that all these trail markers were removed before the recent criteria adjustments. That is true.


But then why are they STILL being removed to this very day? WEEKS after the criteria have changed and these portals have become eligible again? Is it simply a report backlog issue? If so, isn’t it about time someone dives into that backlog and pulls these trail markers out?

When do they get accepted? Do they get accepted right after nominating? Or does it take like 24hrs? I know from some community members before it used to take 24hrs to get a nomination (usually) cool rejected by the AI

All the ones I’ve had accepted by Emily (which is all but one of them since she started being able to accept nominations and not just reject them) were within 24 hours of submission. The one that wasn’t picked up by her is currently being voted on by the community.

We have restored the markers that we could verify that exist at the location and are part of an official named trail. For others, if they are part of an official named trail, I suggest that you resubmit the nominations.

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Well, @NianticAaron , then I am very curious what tonight’s sync will bring.

I still don’t understand why you’re so hell-bent on trails requiring names though. I’m going to quote directly from the recent criteria clarification regarding trail markers here:

“Although no specific name is provided on the marker above, it is official, permanent, and unique.”

This quote is next to a picture of a sign and two thumbs-up emojis. Clearly being part of a “named trail” is not a requirement in the slightest. It seems to me that all that’s required is for the markers to be official (which mine are), permanent (which mine are) and unique. My markers aren’t unique per se, but their locations are. And to quote the criteria clarification page again:

“Although these are mass produced, they are official and at a decision point. The object and its function are unique.”

This quote is next to another picture of two simple arrow signs and a thumbs-up emoji.

So really, the only requirements for trail markers are being official and being permanent. And all of the markers I posted in my original post fulfill these criteria. So hopefully you will reconsider and restore a lot more of them.

Furthermore, I would like to encourage you to read these Wikipedia articles (Numbered-node cycle network - Wikipedia) (Cycling in the Netherlands - Wikipedia) to improve your understanding of Dutch and Belgian cycling culture, its infrastructure and its importance. I feel that you’re looking at these trail markers through star-spangled red-white-and-blue-tinted glasses and it’s affecting your judgement.

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there’s a difference between the trail having a name and the marker having a name.

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I read the entire criteria clarification front to back again and nowhere does it state that the trail having a name is a requirement. It’s a plus if it does, but not having one doesn’t make the trail and its markers ineligible.

And you can’t tell me with a straight face that this (Numbered-node cycle network - Wikipedia) cycling route network that spans two full countries and parts of three others is not a peak example of exploration.

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If it’s the same as a road network but for bikes then it’s just infrastructure sorry. Yes you have enough of them that they’re numbered like roads, but they’re as generic and uninteresting as the few “bike routes” that exist in the US which are also ineligible.

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Could not have agreed more. Brilliantly putđź‘Ź

The U.S. signs merely keep cyclists constrained to designated roads with a striped bike lane for (dubious) safety.

The Benelux nodal system allows cyclists to dial-in their own path for whatever purpose (sightseeing, exercise, shopping, commuting, exploring).

The staff seem to be applying standards that do not appear in print. The standards need to be consistent across all the places Niantic suggests we look, so nominators can check the Criteria pages, reviewers can check the tool-tips, admins can look at the CCC, and everyone is happy.

I feel that the OP is making a reasonable request: if a whole lot of legitimate effort was thrown away based on a mistaken viewpoint that was never codified, the onus is on the people who made the mistake to fix it.

We shouldn’t need to re-do all the legwork that Aaron trashed with one click of the mouse.

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I honestly couldn’t have said it better myself.