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Hand Crafted Stone Wall
Atrisan made, distinctive, stone wall that shades extensive community gardens and lawns. Local landmark that makes you wonder what is on the other side. Residents meet here to tend the gardens. Social gather space during summer.
Big Over 50 village — Greenwood, Forest Glen ( and the shops, services opposite) not showing on some maps. Opened 2022 and 4 stages of 5 fully developed and occupied. greenwoodforestglen.com.au fgvc.com.au The wall is extensive and cannot be missed. The residents lovingly maintain this area, meet

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Dear Dadcaesar,
Thank you for your Wayspot nomination Hand Crafted Stone Wall on Aug 10, 2024!
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2024-08-09

Rejection Criteria

Low Quality Photo

Temporary/Seasonal or Not Distinct

Help, suggestions etc will be appreciated.

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Many of us feel these neighborhood signs meet none of the criteria of a great place to exercise, explore, or be social.

Submitting it as the stone wall seems misleading to me. If you truly think this is eligible, I would recommend taking a straight on photo of the sign and call it what it is. You can include the bit that “Residents meet here to tend the gardens. Social gather space during summer.”

I would not appeal this one personally. You get 2 appeals, each on a 20 day timer before you can use it again.

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Fair enough and thanks for your thoughts.

Ive never appealed one but I was disappointed with the rejection criteria supplied.

What do you think if I focus on the community gardens & lawns?

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Guessing, but I think low quality photo was probably because of the photo taken from the side not showing the sign, and the other was probably trying to say this wall is not a “distinct” feature.

Can you provide photos?

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I sometimes drive down to the shops opposite and the wall is massive and that’s what sticks out as you approach. Sure it has the sign as well – but that is a small part of the wall. I took the pic to show the gardens, lawns and pedestrian access.

If it doesn’t go in it won’t bother me – but it is one I legitimately believe ticks all the boxes.

Anyway, off to bed for me and will check back tomorrow.

I am happy to take advice if a different submission approach is recommended.

Cheers all …

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If this is a separate park, then please share additional information. If you mean the grass and flowers in front of the neighborhood name sign, no. Just standard landscaping features found in many many neighborhoods.
Remember your submission needs to be a great place to exercise, explore, or to socialize. And for all of those, it’s not a place where people meet up to go do those things, which is a common argument for signs like this. It needs to actually be the place where one of those three things happen, is intended for those to happen, and ideally, it’s a great place for those things to happen.

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I thought you were referring to other poi at the neighborhood when I asked for photos. A “community garden” here is usually one where individuals tend individual plots grouped together.

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And a lawn could be a defined area for the community to gather

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But if those were references to that original sign, then I don’t think changing the focus to those elements would help.

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That is a retaining wall, built as infrastructure to hold back dirt.

As @Leedle95 said, it’s pretty easy to see on Google maps that this is not a meet-up spot, nor a garden.

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Sorry to see this disappointing outcome, but I concur with all of the above. I think this description of the awesomeness of the stone wall is borderline misleading. If there are any different amenities around it that encourage socialization, a community garden etc then that’s what I would nominate instead, but if they don’t exist then I would strongly discourage against misrepresenting this area as such.

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Greetings all and thanks for your interest.

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Typical (for here) retaining wall. This one on property opposite the stone wall in question and completed around 3 months after the Greenwood stone wall.

The Greenwood hand crafted stone wall is over 100 metres long. It varies in height. The section in my pics is just over 1500m (5’) above ground and dominates the corner it is on. It does have some dirt directly behind – up to a metre – this is anchored (retained) by the trees / plants you can see behind the wall. A large area behind the high part of the wall is a big drainage basin. These days, native grasses are allowed to grow in these drain basins and they are called bio retention centres / basins. During the wet season it is not unusual to get 100mm (4 inches) of rain in just one hour. Welcome to the sub tropics!

The cheapest and most common way to complete this corner off would have been to make a battered (grassed) bank finish. Next option would be the concrete block wall (as above) with concrete and / or asphalt.

The developers were targeting potential new residents in the over 50yo group. Typically downsizing from an older established suburb with homes on quarter acre blocks. Lots of these folks love gardening so the garden beds in front of the over 100 metres long stone wall are tended by residents who love gardening. (light exercise) They often do it in groups (social) You can see from the pics it is meticulously maintained. Keep in mind that this is outside their property.

The wall also provides shade so the plants can survive the dry times of year. This is a hot climate.

The developers would also have wanted to attract buyers / renters to this new living area. So a big, fancy, eye catching wall built by a stone masons. Passers by can’t help but see it and go – “Wow, I wonder what’s going on there? Il will go take a look!”. (explore).

Yes, it could be described as just a retaining wall but in this case it is much more.

Beautiful garden beds as pictured here outside of private property are not common or in neighbourhoods everywhere here.

I don’t expect anyone to change their view but I am just explaining what it is. I was certainly not trying to mis present. We only get to submit two pics and a few lines of words. I always try to show that the nomination is in a pedestrian safe and friendly place as this is important for me.

I reckon if I ever resubmitted as a “welcome to” sign it would have a better than 50/50 chance of being accepted.

This is on one corner at a major crossroads and trust me … as you drive up to the roundabout … you just cannot miss this wall

Also keep in mind that this nomination was rejected on the basis of photo quality and that the wall was temporary and / or not distinct.
Clearly — these reasons for rejection do not apply to this nomination.

This is a fast growing population area. Lots of new subdivisions and suburbs. Players move into these areas and can wait up to two years or more for their new digs to be on some maps etc …

Kindest regards to all

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If your going to resubmit it as a neighborhood sign, you will have a chance.
Some people believe those Neighborhood signs fit by themselves the explore criteria. Some areas routinely accept these, some routinely reject them.

However, what you did is a bit shady. Trying to make it look not like a sign by taking the picture in such a cut way.

Try again if you want, but If I was a bettor, I’d give ya about a 20% chance, unless you live in florida… then go for it!